Update on the 915 Graphics WDDM Vista Driver Issue

By Josh Bancroft (Intel) (69 posts) on May 7, 2007 at 11:26 am

Wow, you guys are really persistent. :-)

Since I posted a comment in one of the previous discussions about the 915 Graphics Vista driver issue, that I was going to talk to the graphics group about the possibility of releasing an open source and/or "beta" unofficial WDDM driver, to let you at least try to get Aero Glass, Movie Maker, and DVD Maker working in Windows Vista, you've been coming here every day to see/ask if there's been any progress. So here's an update:

I haven't talked to the graphics group yet, because I'm trying to identify the right people to talk to. That's hard in such a big company (Intel has almost 100,000 employees, and I don't work directly with anyone in the Graphics group). But I'm going to find someone, eventually.

Why haven't I posted something sooner? Well, besides the fact that there wasn't any news, I was out of town last week for the MIX07 conference, and there's that whole matter of my job and having actual work to do. ;-) So I'm asking for a little patience on your part.

Also, remember that WINDOWS VISTA WORKS PERFECTLY FINE ON INTEL 915 GRAPHICS. It's just some of the advanced "eye candy" features, like Aero Glass, that don't work without a WDDM driver. To my knowledge, such a driver never existed. The fact that "it worked during the beta!" was due to the fact that Microsoft was allowing XPDM drivers to run the fancy stuff - the hard requirement for a WDDM driver wasn't put in place until later builds of Vista. There is no magical WDDM driver that Intel released during the beta, and subsequently pulled out of existence (someone would have found and hacked a version of that by now if that were the case). There is and only ever was the XPDM driver that exists today.

This isn't a ploy to make you all think that Intel "really cares" (sorry, conspiracy theorists!). I stepped in front of this bus on my own, and I intend to see it through to the end. I'm committed to maintaining transparency throughout the whole thing, too, so as soon as I know the outcome (good or bad), you will too. Stay tuned, and remember, there's NO guarantee or promise that anything will come of this! If the graphics group comes back and says they won't or can't release a WDDM driver for 915, then there's really nothing more we can do. At least we will have tried.

Categories: Intel® Software Network 2.0, Mobility

Comments (561)

May 7, 2007 7:00 PM PDT


James		 The interesting thing is that Via and S3 have integrated chipsets with WDDM drivers that don't support Aero - they're only certified for Vista Basic (but I believe this allows some graphics acceleration and a 'Windows Standard' UI rather than 'Windows Basic' - see wikipedia). So it's not true that WDDM => Aero.

I've looked (briefly) at the Microsoft cert documents and I think you need a certain stability/speed to get Premium certification. So perhaps Intel could develop/release non-Aero WDDM drivers for the GMA 900?
May 8, 2007 9:15 AM PDT


Slask		 Hey Josh, all we want is Aero Glass effect. We don't want all the fancy stuff like Flip 3D, Thumbnail preview, Alt-Tab Switching etc. Just Areo Glass. Thanks in advance.
May 8, 2007 10:57 AM PDT


Ricardo Ramirez		 Hey Josh
How can we as the force we all together are, help you to convince the people who's calling the shots on this matter. Intel or Microsoft that releasing a driver or relaxing the Vista requirements in this case would be the smartest thing to do for their interests?
May 8, 2007 11:44 AM PDT

Josh Bancroft (Intel)
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 Ricardo, you're doing exactly that. Leave your comments on the blog or in the forum, so I can point people to the direct requests that we're getting on this topic.

Or maybe "outcry" is a better way to describe it. :-)
May 8, 2007 7:51 PM PDT


Taylor		 Thanks for trying Josh, This laptop is 1.5 years old and can't run aero because of the 915 chipset. I don't know about you guys but I don't upgrade computers once a year...
May 9, 2007 11:45 AM PDT


SESSE		 $$$$ - JOSH - $$$, we all are counting in on you. You are our last
and only hope.
May 9, 2007 5:02 PM PDT


Slask		 Its really sad to know that Intel is treating us in such a way. It is we the customers who made Intel the number one brand and now Intel is refusing to help us? All we ask is Aero glass and vista aaps to run properly, thats all. We are not asking them to bring the moon.
May 10, 2007 5:36 AM PDT


Pepor		 Slask, James: Did it ever occur to any of you that there might be a real, technical reason for the absence of an i915 WDDM driver? Just because it worked on a far-from-finished beta version of Windows Vista doesn't mean that it works on the RTM version. The technology behind all that is very complex and there's probably no way that a correct WDDM will ever be written for the GMA900.

It might be possible to code a hack to get Aero (or more specifically the DWM) to work, but it would affect system performance, stability and - above all - would probably keep any other application (like games or even Windows Movie Maker) from using the GPU at all. The important thing that's missing from the GMA900 (as far as I know) is a hardware scheduler that would effectively enable the GPU to switch its workload - much like the CPU switches from process to process. Implementing a proper WDDM driver without such a scheduler would mean an enormous amount of work - if it's possible at all.

Also, the glass effect is extremely expensive from the GPU's point of view (see Greg Schechter's blog - especially http://blogs.msdn.com/greg_schechter/archive/2006/03/25/561167.aspx
- for interesting information about that).

If you'd like translucent window borders, you could try Stardock's WindowBlinds, which provides such effects for Windows XP and Vista (with or without Aero). Contrary to popular belief WindowBlinds does not neccessarily slow down the system or hog lots of resources, so that might be a viable alternative for you. You can download a free demo version at http://www.windowblinds.net.
May 10, 2007 7:15 AM PDT


majortom1981		 All I want is for dvd maker and movie maker to work on my laptop. Even if it is slow.

ITs funny how I can run Roller COaster Tycoon 3 at a good speed on my laptop but cant run vista aero.
May 10, 2007 10:27 AM PDT


Dave Hunter		 Josh, thanks for looking into this! I'd love to be able to run aero, even if it's slow. It seems a shame to force people to not be able to use something, rather than let them find out for themselves that it's just too slow. I'm sure that by releasing a driver you'd up the view of intel with people, even if it wasn't supported and was slow for some things. I hope you succeed!
May 10, 2007 11:51 PM PDT


IBB		 your idea is not so bad Pepor...but neither with Stardock's WindowBlinds glass not work if you card is 'no aero support'!
May 11, 2007 1:16 AM PDT


Pepor		 majortom1981, there is an updated version of Windows Movie Maker (2.6) that should work on PCs that are incapable of running Aero. You can download it at

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=d6b.....=en&tm
May 11, 2007 2:38 AM PDT


Pierre		 <p>Salut Josh,</p>
<p>Je participe à ce blog pour manifester ma déception à l'égard d'Intel. TOUS LES UTILISATEURS VEULENT POUVOIR UTILISER L'EFFET AERO, glass, 3d flip etc...</p>
<p>Merci de faire le nécessaire, ce sera payant sur la fildélité des clients.</p>
<p>Pierre</p>
May 11, 2007 10:33 AM PDT


Anthony		 Curious if anyone has tried using a data projector on a laptop running Vista with these chipsets. It hasn't worked for me. Could care less about Aero, MS recognized the issue with MM and released a workaround (2.6 - thanks) but not much found on the forums about projectors/drivers and Vista.

Is it me?
May 11, 2007 3:57 PM PDT


Anthony		 So I installed Vista Enterprise (Corporate Vista) on a Lenovo T43 and I find myself with the same issues. So as much as I'd like to send my road warriors down that road, incorporating new security features such as Bit Locker and other helpful "corporate" related things, the fact that they can't run a simple PowerPoint through a connected Data Projector ("Your display setup is not supported") prevents me from doing so. And hey Mr. CFO, all that money we spent on MS "Software Assurance", ensuring the latest and greatest from MS to secure and run on our recently purchased thousand plus corporate laptops running Intel 915 Graphic Chipsets....ummm...better just write that off.

You guys (MS/Intel) need to fix this problem. It's not just the "eye candy".
May 12, 2007 2:25 PM PDT


jkk		 We can't even change window colors without aero !!

http://jkkmobile.blogspot.com/2007/05/reason-no-1008-why-we-want-aero-with.html
May 13, 2007 8:31 PM PDT

ketchrock
 Well, this guy has figured it out....Ruanlu.Thank you Sir. This in fact proves that Intel has held out on the world. I have pasted his findings below:

"I've found a way to enable Aero Glass on my GMA900 Notebook.
The idea is to modify GMA950's driver and install in my GMA900 Notebook. By this way, you can cheat in Vista, and enable Aero Glass. But something I must to say is that I can't guarantee on the stability.

1. find out the hardware ID of your GMA900 in WINXP. (you can view this information in dxdiag)
2. download a latest Vista driver for GMA950 (i945GM chipset) from anywhere you want. (it's a good choice to download form intel's website. down the .zip one, not the .exe)
3. uncompress the driver.
4. edit a file \Graphics\igdlh.inf, find out the section [Intel.Mfg], and find the hardware ID of 945GM, replace the ID to your GMA900's.
find this one:
%iCLGD0% = i945GM0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27A2
change to
%iCLGD0% = i945GM0, PCI\YOUR_GMA900_HARDWRAE_ID
5. save this file, and install this modified driver, reboot your system.
6. and then...enjoy the Aero Glass... Y^_^Y."

Ruanlu - May 10th, 2007 at 9:00 pm
May 14, 2007 7:33 AM PDT


Vin		 @ Josh - I for one can appreciate the challenges you face in addressing this issue with the developers and the powers that be, and for that, thank you.

@ Anthony - I too have found the inability to easily switch to projector mode annoying, but somewhat embarrassing. I often have to give presentations to clients, and to do so, I need to setup a secondary monitor in the display driver, activate it, and tell PowerPoint to display the slideshow on the secondary monitor. This does not exactly wow clients as to Intel's and Microsoft's capabilities. It works, but not like it should. It is another example of actually losing functionality by upgrading to Vista. To be fair, it might not be an Intel issue; rather, it may be a Lenovo or HP (in my case) issue.

@ Intel - Understanding that there are some hardware limitations on the 915 Graphics Chipset that ultimately "fail" WDDM compliance, why is the Graphics Chipset considered to be DirectX 9.0 compliant? From what I can tell, that is the minimum level of compliance required for WDDM. That being said, is the Graphics Chipset compliant or not? If it is compliant, is it only because some of DirectX 9.0's requirements are met via software, and not hardware? If that is true, then the Graphics Chipset is not truly DirectX 9.0 compliant, using the logic being applied to the WDDM scenario (e.g. it must be hardware compliant to meet WDDM requirements.) One could make the argument that the graphics chipset was never truly DirectX 9.0 compliant, and should not have been labeled as such given the reduction in functionality that seemingly should be available to DirectX 9.0 compliant graphics chipsets.

In the end - who is right?
- Microsoft in stating that WDDM has minimum hardware requirements, all found in the DirectX 9.0 specification?
- Intel, in stating that the 915 graphics chipset is DirectX 9.0 compliant?
- Microsoft's DirectX standards, allowing non-hardware compliant graphics chipsets/cards to get the DirectX 9.0 stamp of approval?

I am not trying to be argumentative; rather, I am attempting to convey, logically and professionally, the general frustration in the situation that many of the posters here and throughout the Internet have conveyed.

Again, Josh, you are going above and beyond to even attempt to address this situation, and I wish you the best.
May 14, 2007 2:39 PM PDT


IBB		 ketchrock...its not so simple,not work this solution for me...
May 14, 2007 2:42 PM PDT


IBB		 Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)
May 14, 2007 3:11 PM PDT


Rawr		 Ketchrock...I can't find my HW ID anywhere in dxdiag. Know specifically where to look?
May 14, 2007 3:49 PM PDT


Gabe		 @ketchrock: hehehe althought it is a nifty trick, it does not exactly work. Upon boot Vista did not detect my resolution, I had to set it manually and that was fine. So positive signs. But checking the device manager showed me the same error as IBB. And then running the system rating again did not change the score and Aero could not be enabled.

But I am interested in knowing if it actually truly worked with some people out there. By the way, my card is the i915 and not the gma900.
May 14, 2007 7:42 PM PDT


Rawr		 Nevermind. I found the HW ID in Device Manager. I'll update on whether this works for me.
May 14, 2007 8:17 PM PDT


Rawr		 Not getting any errors, but Aero is not available after modding and installing the GMA 950 driver. This is on an Acer Aspire 3620.
May 14, 2007 8:41 PM PDT


Rawr		 Installing the 945GM driver stopped my 915 from being recognized as a D3D device. Therefore no aero. =(
May 15, 2007 2:46 AM PDT


DocArt		 Hi,
Same here with the mod driver ... (Intel 915GM HP NC6120)
Error 43 with no D3D Support ... trying with an other version of I945GM driver, say no error but non aero.
Any idea Ketchrock ?
May 15, 2007 9:15 PM PDT


Allison		 Intel Sucks. My brand new Sony Vaio laptop is less than 5 months old and i just spent $300 buying into the whole Vista Experience hype. But now i can't get the Aero Function?? Intel is a greedy company and I will never buy intel products again. My next pc/ notebook will have amd in it, not Intel!!!
May 15, 2007 9:18 PM PDT


Allison		 bolted975 said (in the intel foum):

Totally agree, we were sold a card which was said to support DX9 however it doesn't do this fully. According to the upgrade advisor this card meets all requirements except for a having a WDDM driver. If this is true why don't we have a driver? and if a driver can't be made due to it not supporting DX 9 properly why was it sold as being able to??

My sentiments exactly!! >_
May 16, 2007 5:01 AM PDT


Alex		 Yo Josh,nice job mate,hope u can make it mate,goodluck.Counting on you.
May 16, 2007 5:09 AM PDT


Alex		 abd ketchrock,u might be right about 900GMA ,but like 80% of the ppl here got the 915GM/GMS 910 GML Express Chipset(like me).So...might not be so easy..
May 16, 2007 5:12 AM PDT


Alex		 the best solution would be a specific wddm driver for 915 gm/gms 910 Express Chipset . And not the modify of other chipset driver as the 915 and 945 got "few" diferent things (as far as i know).Just patience and lets hope Josh makes it with the wddm driver.
May 16, 2007 8:37 AM PDT


Slask		 I m in the same boat. I also tried it and got the same error.
May 16, 2007 3:34 PM PDT


Enrique Leon		 I just came aboard the Vista bandwagon and having the same problem all of you are facing... it simply amazes me no one has found a hack to force aero yet. Where's Kevin when we need him?

I'm sure other people w/ different yet capable video cards are having the same problem. We should take the fight on with Microsoft to remove this "feature".
May 16, 2007 5:02 PM PDT


Ray		 I've tried 1001 ways to make 915 display Aero in Vista RTM on my NEC Versa E3100 and I'm sorry I don't think it's possible.

I've modded drivers, registry hacks and all that, and to no avail. I think there will be no solution unless Microsoft lift some of the specs that are binding the 915 to no-aero.

I've read in places you need 1gb of ram atleast for it to work, and various other ploys. I'm just not sure.
May 17, 2007 6:21 AM PDT


Luis Slaova		 Ketchrock, what version of the driver are you using? Because I have the same error 43. Thanks
May 18, 2007 10:01 AM PDT


Alex		 hmm u might like the looks of this http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q292/XtrmShadow/Untitled.jpg
May 18, 2007 10:05 AM PDT


Alex		 look at the diference between the normal window and the WMP gadget,its similar to vista aero right?so it must be using same effect but doesnt need wddm drivers...so bleh...915GM can run aero well if my logic works right,
May 18, 2007 10:12 AM PDT


Alex		 I dont want to be persistent Josh ,but just trying to demostrate (as far as i can)that the 915GM is capable of runing vista aero ,well at least theme,not sure the 3d flip .
Regards
May 18, 2007 10:54 AM PDT


IBB		 I think........!
Intel is the great power with thousands above usual intelligent men which have not heard for the problem. For the interest of the small and large buyers and usesr.Want aero...no problem gets these him...Intel will turn the whole world and Microsoft if is this necessary....dont have worried about they,Intel is here for us! Intel forever! Aero comming soon!
May 18, 2007 10:54 AM PDT


Alex		 hmm..another lil proof http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q292/XtrmShadow/Untitled2.jpg
and josh,correct me if im wrong about this.
Thanks
May 18, 2007 11:00 AM PDT


Alex		 @IBB yea they can solve it,and my guess is that they will as they are a huge enterprize in the computer world(even the biggest).Im just showing some proof to ppl that might 915GM isnt capable of runing vista as alot of ppl say it doesnt,also showing josh the same.
May 18, 2007 11:48 AM PDT


Slask		 @Alex, v all know that i915 is perfectly capable of running Aero and your screenshots have proved it yet again. But the problem is, Intel dosen't want to agree with that. I just hope that someone finds a way through to enable Aero because I dont think there is much point counting on Intel.
May 18, 2007 8:37 PM PDT


Psycho46		 I'm getting sick with all this driver talk...Damn!!! Are we going to get it on SP1?
May 19, 2007 8:59 PM PDT


Camilo Soler		 Hey Josh very thanks for this post is a hope for see my windows vista run aero. I don't understand, why vista need this recurs, if operative system like unbuntu run xgl beryl and compiz without problems, and more they have much effects that flip 3d and aero glass. I have ubuntu and run perfect, but importunely i need windows because work with much utilities for windows and pay much money for this s***, is so frustrate have vista without effect graphics, sure this is yhe unique change of vista to xp.
May 20, 2007 7:08 AM PDT


funny		 Hi Josh! Is there any news? I am always looking forward to this. Thanks again for you!
May 20, 2007 7:43 PM PDT


Antz		 @Alex

I've noticed that too! I was wondering why there was the glass effect. I figured some intel or MS person would simply throw it out the window by saying that was some software rendered bla bla bla...
May 22, 2007 12:31 PM PDT


Wolfeyes		 We are all counting on You Josh
May 22, 2007 5:36 PM PDT


Killer Vamp 09		 ok josh if it isn't possible to run aero then fine... just release a WDDM driver for the intel 915 chipsets so we can play HALO 2 VISTA dang it
May 22, 2007 9:25 PM PDT


Ultima		 Where do you find the HW ID?
May 23, 2007 6:30 PM PDT


Yoshi		 @Alex - That is not Aero that you are seeing in the gadgets, thats just transparent PNG's. If it were really Aero, then it would have the Aero effect/blur.
May 24, 2007 3:51 PM PDT


Andy R		 I really hope Intel does make a WDDM driver for the GMA900. Even if it's just a Vista Standard scheme supporting only version, that doesn't support Aero. It's just that some games will start to need WDDM drivers to even run now, like Halo 2 Vista. Now, that game isn't that demanding and my other Laptop specs far exceed it. Here's to hoping this comes through, at least SOME time. It would be much more convenient and would make Vista look so much better, for us GMA900 users.
May 24, 2007 8:29 PM PDT


Killer Vamp 09		 I know i have just bought halo 2 vista, but to my surprise... it requires WDDM drivers. Which really sucks because my desktop passes the recommended requirements all the way at high settings... i just need a WDDM driver to play it. So PLEASE Itel driver devs PLEASE make a WDDM driver for the intel 915 integrated graphics chip. It would be greatly appreciated not only by me, but by everyone else who wants to play the games that now require WDDM drivers. I do not even care if i have Aero or NOT.

P.S.-It can even be an unofficial beta release... but please make one.
May 25, 2007 1:10 AM PDT


IBB		 Why so boring with this aero,Intel have had the more important work....
''Intel has just created a laptop that's as pretty as a supermodel, and thinner, too. Codenamed the Intel Mobile Metro Notebook, this prototype was designed by Intel along with Ziba Design, and it's a mere .7 inches thick and weighs just 2.25 pounds. It's no dumb blonde, either, packed with Intel's speediest and most efficient components, which will probably be plenty fast by the time this machine is manufactured, maybe even as soon as the end of this year''.

P.S. Maybe this laptop computer will support aero!!!
May 25, 2007 6:01 AM PDT


mengqinglu		 Just to inform everyone that, WINDOWS BLIND 6 will support the glass/blur effect aka AERO

stuff MICROSOFT, if only I am experienced enough to use Linux, I would never ever touch Windows again

and same goes to INTEL, NOT GOING TO BUY ANOTHER INTEL PRODUCT AGAIN, ever.
May 25, 2007 7:20 AM PDT


dufang		 If Intel won't make one, please someone could come out with a way that can remove the limitation for wddm driver on vista, because there was no limitation on the vista beta version, this might not be too difficult.
Or a modified wddm driver from the original xpdm driver. please! we really need it!!
May 26, 2007 2:44 AM PDT


Mathias		 please make that driver,
Is that so much work to make that driver?

And Josh, Are we going to get it on SP1?

(translation of a dutch sense)
May 26, 2007 7:46 AM PDT


jon		 I think everyone of us have been a victim of this new market strategy by either Intel or Microsoft by not releasing a driver support for vista. We are not even asking much from Intel, we just new Intel to release a WDDM driver for 915 chipset as they all knew that it is a popular chipset especially on laptops, it's just showing that Intel doesn't really mind extending their customer service support for those who bought their products.
I bought a laptop 6months ago and hoping that when windows vista comes out into the market I could use it's fully functional capabilities. But what happen? No support from Intel. No support from Microsoft.
As we all knew this is a highly monopolised market and we as a small consumers can't bring this powerful company down. But I hope this will serve as a lesson for buying future products (especially from Intel) in which this company doesn't have any customer service at all. The only way the consuming public to take down this powerful companies is to discontinued support for their products in the future, which means to say that they will experience a huge drop of sales in the market.
INTEL PRODUCTS SUCKS AND HOPEFULLY EVERYONE WILL GET THE IDEA AND NOT TO BUY INTEL PRODUCTS ANYMORE IN THE FUTURE!!!
May 26, 2007 11:50 AM PDT


Slask		 http://www.stardock.com/products/odnt/odnt2008/odnt2008.asp

Comon man, when they can do it, y not u????
May 27, 2007 6:22 AM PDT


BoySoft		 please make that WDDM drivers

That areo is not SO importand, but we can't also us the movie maker and the dvd maker.
May 27, 2007 10:55 AM PDT


Alain Coballes		 The easiest way to achieve at least the Aero Glass effect is to use Ashampoo 4. All the visual controls are so easy to use even a toddler can tinker on it, unlike all the fuss you can have from installing the popular but messy Windows Blinds.
May 27, 2007 5:54 PM PDT


chris		 hey josh, i just stubled apon your blog. i think your doing a great job by the way. i have a gateway MX3228 laptop. i bought it about 4 months before the release of Vista (i know i'm an idiot). i went ahead and bought it at Best Buy because the Geek Squad guy there told me that Vista compatible ment "really good computer." i thought that vista compatible meant that it would do ALL of the stuff vista can do. the laptop came with a Via/S3 uniChrome Pro IGP Graphics Card. it can play Hi-Def video and play high graphics games, but no Aero. i have all of the other requirements for aero (1.5 GHz processor, 1GB Ram, and 60 GB harddrive) Question: i heard about Vista Aero Standard (not Windows Basic or Vista Basic, but Aero standard) it had not transparency or 3D flip. i just want the window borders. is it possible to get the Aero Standard theme on this notebook? please help...bug the mess out of MS and Intel please!!!! lol
May 28, 2007 7:47 AM PDT


IBB		 yes......but you dont have WDDM Driver Dude!
May 28, 2007 9:46 AM PDT


Andy R		 Uhh, Chris? That's a VIA chipset, not intel. Intel will not help you with another company's product. Also, i very much doubt you are playing games with decent graphics. Most new games need at least three times the power than VIA graphics give you. At least you can play SOME DECENT GAMES with Intel graphics and the chips are pretty much free with the motherboard.

To all of you laying into Intel, give them a break! They have the best CPU's on the market and they have some of the best integrated graphics cards out there as well. I find their customer support to be very good on the whole. This is just one grey area. At least Josh from Intel is trying to get something sorted. The trouble is, with older products, it's hard to make drivers for them if they just don't perform well enough! There is a page on the GMA900 section of Intel's website, which does explain some of the reasons they initially did not make a WDDM driver. However, if they reconsider and try and make one even if it doesn't support full Aero Glass, i'll be very pleased with Intel :D

Hope you pull through on this one Josh!
May 29, 2007 7:42 AM PDT


Ricardo		 Sorry guys but i give up
My Vista crashed and I went back to XP
And let me tell you "I liked it"
My machine behaves way faster and smoother by far.
So "Hasta la Vista Josh..."
May 29, 2007 9:46 AM PDT


Chris		 When you bought your 915 chipset machines, you bought them designed to run the then-current software it was bundled with- Windows XP. They have a solid but not super-speedy low-cost graphics chip.

If you then choose to install a generation of software four-five years newer (2006 vintage, not 2001) than the XP your machines were designed to run, you can't expect them to perform to meet 100% of that software's demands.

The disabling of Aero features is the work of Microsoft, not Intel, so quit blaming the hardware maker- flame Microsoft instead for shipping bloat-ridden Vista that requires the latest greatest hardware to run.

If you want freedom to have eyecandy 3D desktops that you can enable or disable under YOUR control, depending you your assessment of the performance on your hardware, may I suggest you try one of the Linux distributions that bundle such 3D desktops- Compiz, Beryl and so on.

Compiz is a project run by Novell, I believe. They have a very capable Linux distribution, SUSE, you could try. Other like Mandriva, Ubuntu and so on come with the Compiz desktop.
WINDOWS VISTA AERO VS LINUX UBUNTU BERYL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ&mode=related&search=
gives an idea.

Nevertheless, reality dictates that such fancy desktops are going to perform quite slowly on modest low-power-consumption hardware like the 915- which was designed way before such software became available. I mention the low power because that's one of the things that was done to give more battery life on laptops.

Chris
May 29, 2007 3:54 PM PDT


Slask		 Chris, the thing is, i915 chipset is perfectlly capable of running Aero glass and the beta versions of Vista have proved this. We are asking Intel only to give us a beta driver that can just enable Aero glass. Thats all. Is that too much to ask for?
May 29, 2007 7:14 PM PDT


DjKoRn		 you know what? Vista Sucks Intel Sucks! Install OSX86 on your laptop!!!! GMA915 run smooth on MAC'S why Vista? Install XP+OSX86+Linux Beryl then your good to go! dont waste your time with VISTA sh!t id rather use Linux Beryl for the eye candy, and XP for my Windoze Applications, Then OSX86 for SUPER COOLER Applications...

Summary
Vista = eats huge Memory/Hard disk space
Linux = Minimal Install + Beryl ROCKS!
OSX86 = got nothing to say!! AWESOME OS!!!!! Keynote, iphoto,itunes,imovie... etc.........

just a cent...


(peace!)


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http://youtube.com/djkorn
May 30, 2007 1:43 AM PDT


Alex		 @Slask meh,we should hope but the thing is...intel might get out the driver for the I915 GM but that can take a week or probably a year,so yeah we should hope,but concentrate on your patience,we gonna need it :p and btw,stardock stuff arent very good ,yeah its just like 12mb of ram and 1-10% of cpu usage (depending on your CPU type) but still,dont you prefer haveing that small %tage of the ram and cpu for other stuff?
@Yoshi Hm mate,they might be PNG's that might be true but...even so,(as far as i know)the diference between one and another cant be THAT big..Correct me if im wrong.
May 30, 2007 3:39 AM PDT


jim st james		 what a joke,the good ol bx chipset does everything a 915chipset can do or nothing the 915 chipset can do that he bx can't do from what i ever ask of it(strictly buisness + all multimedia tasks, pity the suckers(speak of myself too that nearly or got lured into this not so old chipset 915 spec notebooks).
the p111 bx chipset platform runs rings around them,(fully loads vista ultimate +activated on the net too in abit over half an hour on only 320mb ram!(with the killed vista rort ram issue cd rom version of ultimate!)add to the equation come reload every single certified driver loads in 2k,me,xp,2k3+vista,by the time the bx is up and running on the net you are still manually loading drivers with themsome newer chipsets worrying if 1 gb is enough to substantiate no glass effects. now tell me which is the more intelligent pc!
really now.
save the planet recycle the trusty ol pc ,you will be immenselly rewarded by no brainer seamless operation
without the lies and dissapointments.
so much for my personal ambitions.
May 30, 2007 3:59 AM PDT


Chris		 It seems that it is Microsoft who are stopping the installation of the Aero features when the i915 chipset is detected, so even if you had the driver you would not get the features you are seeking.
The hack above changing hardware ID's is one attempt to get around this.
Have you tried asking Microsoft if there is a way to disable their blocking feature? Good luck with that....
Of course many of us are locked in to Windows, via our employers, but if you are not, then an alternative OS you can configure to your needs rather than the needs of the maker's marketing department might be a possible route.
It's the software vendors who drive the upgrade treadmill, by loading their products with new features.

Interestingly, just before Vista launched I received a mail from AMD, a RAM maker and Microsoft (sent by Microsoft) trumpeting the sales opportunity for RAM and motherboards that the new OS represented for PC dealers.
Maybe this marketing tieup is a clue why MS is limiting the features of Intel's mainstream product?
May 30, 2007 7:08 AM PDT


Andy R		 Chris, the trouble with Linux distributions is that, while the new ones look nice, they are still utterly USELESS in comparison to Windows. I have Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn with Desktop Effects enabled. I'm quite impressed, it does look very good. Linux is good as a tool and to check hardware/make software modifications because of the freedom it gives you in that respect. However, in terms of functionality, Windows comes away gleaming. Linux could be great, if it were just that little bit more user friendly and that little bit more supported worldwide. Getting drivers from some Hardware is just plain NASTY with Linux, you have to go on these dodgy 3rd party sites and half the time the drivers just screw up. It's a fact, MS have the monopoly with their OS's. You get Windows XP for example, liklihood is that everything you try and install (within reason) will work, with or without a necessary patch. Windows also has the best entertainment capabilities, with Vista Premium and beyond coming with Media Centres which are actually quite good now. Linux, while always stable and virus-free, just cannot compete with the sheer functionality of Windows, especially if the word "Computer game" comes into the equation. You have to pay for Cedega just the play SOME PC games on Linux....sorry, but that's just no good.

Personally, i like the idea of Linux having a major rise in the world, in it's use. That would keep MS on it's toes and ensure they keep innovation up and perhaps even prices down. But until Linux broadens out a bit, that's just not happening.
May 30, 2007 8:09 AM PDT


Slask		 Hey Andy, I completely agree with you. LINUX is not at all user friendly and neither is any other OS except windows. Windows outperforms all others. And Chris, what I think is happening is that, Vista is looking for WDDM Drivers, and since i915 has none, so it blocks Aero. I think, that if Intel provides a beta WDDM Driver for this chipset, then Aero can be enabled.
May 30, 2007 1:43 PM PDT


yohansy		 y ese conductor que van a tirar solo es para la tarjeta de video 915 o servira tambien para la 910gl
please diganme
May 30, 2007 4:00 PM PDT


Kris		 Intel is Garbage just bought a new laptop with nforce chipset
and graphics and AMD processor, all your complaints are falling on deaf ears ill never buy intel again if i possibly
can they need more competition only then will they start listening to their customers......... well it was nice while it lasted i wont be checking this forum any more good luck to
all of you !!! and thanks josh even if your efforts were futile
May 30, 2007 11:40 PM PDT


IBB		 Josh was nicely that we give some information how your conversations advance or at least lines 'more nothing boys...are patient more awhile'!
May 31, 2007 1:25 AM PDT


jim st james		 just knocked back a beaut ibm r52 AT a pittance of the new
price because i found it to have that gma 900 graphics engine,instead deciding to stick to the proven p111 recycled machine (rather opting for 945-965-975 chipset machine thus giving in to intell/microsoft manipulation schemes)WHY SHOULD I BOTHER WASTING TIME LOADING DRIVER AFTER DRIVER WITH INFERIOR SUPPORTED 915CHIPSETS IN 2k,XP,2k3 + OR CANNOT EVEN RUN AREO WITH vista ultimate,permium or buisness!
yep,intel screwed up the beaut r52 thinkpads with themsome graphics.(SHAME,SHAME,SHAME)!
not even a stinkin' beta driver implemnting no liability
towards intel or microsoft if one uses that driver
to keep everyone happy,bit scabby of them really.
May 31, 2007 5:43 AM PDT


Andy R		 A Yohansy: Sà­, el Intel 910GL serà­a cubierto también por los conductores. Contento podrà­a utilizar mis habilidades espaà±olas para algo ahora :P

At Kris, Intel may have a grey area on this subject, but AMD are by far worse with their CPUs. Btw Nforce is the name of your Chipset not your graphics. You'll likely have Nvidia or ATI graphics. There are perfectly acceptable reasons Intel has given on this matter, on the GMA900 support page.

I don't mind too much. Intel continue to provide excellent products at good prices and to me, that's more than enough to keep me happy, i don't need Intel to hold my hand support wise :P But, indeed, a WDDM driver for this chipset definitely wouldn't go amiss.
May 31, 2007 6:54 AM PDT


fluxam		 First & most important: thanks for your efforts!
I'm surprised how well Vista works on my week 1 Macbook, but, oh! for some pizzazz in looks!
June 1, 2007 7:30 PM PDT


yohansy		 q dicidieron lo van a tirar el driver digan please!!!!!!
June 2, 2007 12:20 AM PDT


IBB		 GO Intel GO

It's true AMD has completely lost the war with INTEL CPUs and it seems that they have Given in! They lost their brains on the way to the defeat! It seems that AMD's webmasters have completely lost it. And now, directly from AMD's website you can buy an Asus laptop with a mobile Core 2 Duo CPU inside it.Yes!!!Aero comes intel will buy all World if is necessary. All for costumers!
June 2, 2007 11:43 AM PDT


Slask		 Can anyone tell me whether I can upgrade the Chipset of my laptop from 915 to 945 or 965?
June 3, 2007 3:03 PM PDT


dufang		 Hi slask, I think it's not so easy, for a laptop, that's why we are expecting the wddm driver for 915. But you could have a try. Good luck!
June 3, 2007 6:06 PM PDT


yohansy		 This is what says intel


Q3: Is Intel providing WDDM drivers for Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 (Intel GMA 900) on Intel 915 Express chipset-based platforms?

A3: Intel will provide support for WDDM drivers beginning with the Intel® 945 Express chipset family and beyond. See question 5 below for a detailed explanation of WDDM support on Intel® 915 Express chipset-based platforms. However, Windows Vista is supported on the Intel® 865G, 915G Express desktop chipsets and 852/855GM mobile chipsets running XPDM (XP Display Driver Model) driver included on the Windows Vista install media. Windows Vista will install on these platforms, but advanced features such as Windows Aero will not be enabled as XPDM drivers do not support Windows AERO.

http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-023606.htm#3
June 3, 2007 8:52 PM PDT


Dan		 I think this is a disgrace. I have the 915 chipset and was very disappointed when I learned that Aero doesn't work. I have now replaced Vista with Ubuntu 7.04 and am running Beryl, with all effects turned on. The 3D effects are much better than Aero and it runs perfectly. I doubt I will ever go back to Windows and will most likely opt for non-Intel hardware in future.
June 4, 2007 12:40 AM PDT


IBB		 Good morning yohansy have you slept the winter dream so far?
we know this
June 4, 2007 7:40 AM PDT


zeeram		 Still nothing has happened @_@.
June 4, 2007 1:25 PM PDT


yohansy		 When Driver available for download is going to be????
June 5, 2007 12:07 PM PDT


dufang		 i will always be waiting here!
June 6, 2007 1:17 AM PDT


Sid		 Hi! I purchased a HP laptop, 1.70GHz 1GB memory. My ratings are:
Processor: 3.5
RAM: 4.1
Hard Drive: 4.3
Graphics: 1.9
3D Gaming: 1.0

I have an Mobile Intel® 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset Family graphics accelerator. Is there no way that I can run Aero glass on this. Please help, since I really need to activate this, I dont want 55000 bucks to go waste. Please suggest any registry tweaks or some alternate WindowBlinds skin that looks like aero glass. Plz plz plz plz help....
June 6, 2007 2:50 AM PDT


Alex		 im affraid it can take a good while for the driver to be on,intel might not even be reading this blog and just made it so ppl can argue and not fuss on their forums to create more threads and "keep them busy" so...there is a chance of 50% driver will be out,but there is 50% it might not.IF it comes out then that is great but for me,they gonna have to proove me that they are working on it or at least trying to work on it.You guys should think that Josh might be saying the truth aswell as lie to keep us shut from post on the forums.I dont want to be rude but we should face the reality,85% of the things sayd a day by corporations/Hypermarkets/are based on lies,doesnt matter that the person who sayds them is from a huge company as much as from a small fruit market.They do everything for costumers to buy their stuff.
Anyways,we can just hope they are saying the truth,but dont expect much.

Cheers.
June 6, 2007 2:53 AM PDT


Alex		 Para Yohansi : Es posible pero lee mi post,puede que si pero puede que no,eso depende si mienten o no,porque ya sabes que un 85% de las cosas dichas al dia de todo tipo de marcas es mentira para que les compren cosas.Lo que podemos hacer es esperar y haver que pasa...si es verdad o no lo que dice Josh:p

saludos y si te hace falta mas informacion escribe :p
June 6, 2007 7:17 AM PDT


yohansy		 Josh says something
June 6, 2007 4:52 PM PDT


Andy R		 I think Josh could have forgotten this for a sec. He'll probably see all these posts in a few weeks and go "Oh s***" :P
June 6, 2007 6:46 PM PDT


Israel		 What about someone finding a torrent for the beta version of Vista that had the drivers and take them out and try them on the retail version of Vista?
June 6, 2007 10:37 PM PDT


Rony Tran		 Please give us an an update been waiting for quite a while please say something....
June 7, 2007 1:39 PM PDT


Wolfeyes		 The WDDM Drivers for the beta version of Vista doesn't work on the final one.
June 7, 2007 2:34 PM PDT


Toby		 I think some expertise on chipset drivers in the GPL community may help by changing the beta or the 945/950 one. Some one (unfortunately only this text lines were sent to me, no author name) post an alteration in 945/950 WDDM driver, stating it works. I personaly did not test it, however if some one wants to have a try:

I've found a way to enable Aero Glass on my GMA900 Notebook.
The idea is to modify GMA950's driver and install in my GMA900 Notebook. By this way, you can cheat in Vista, and enable Aero Glass. But something I must to say is that I can't guarantee on the stability.

1. find out the hardware ID of your GMA900 in WINXP. (you can view this information in dxdiag)
2. download a latest Vista driver for GMA950 (i945GM chipset) from anywhere you want. (it's a good choice to download form intel's website. down the .zip one, not the .exe)
3. uncompress the driver.
4. edit a file \Graphics\igdlh.inf, find out the section [Intel.Mfg], and find the hardware ID of 945GM, replace the ID to your GMA900's.
find this one:
%iCLGD0% = i945GM0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27A2
change to
%iCLGD0% = i945GM0, PCI\YOUR_GMA900_HARDWRAE_ID
5. save this file, and install this modified driver, reboot your system.
6. and then...enjoy the Aero Glass... Y^_^Y.
June 7, 2007 10:37 PM PDT


Fulano		 A SOLUTION? In the old days I used a program called "3d Analyze" to play games with features that my video card didn't have. This application was able to trick the game to recognize my video card as another one more advanced... as an ATI or NVIDIA to be more specific. With this app it was like having a new video card, and it really worked as a new video card. I wonder if there is a programer willing to study how this software worked and how and if its possible to trick Windows Vista to recognize our video cards as another one, more advanced. Make it an ATI or NVIDIA PLEASE!!! Thanks!!!

All of "3d Analyze" i found on the web. It seems the author is selling the source code. Take a look:

http://www.tommti-systems.de/go.html?http://www.tommti-syste...../shop.html

http://www.shareit.com/product.html?productid=300002147&.....LIVERY=EML

http://www.tommti-systems.de/go.html?http://www.tommti-syste.....files.html

http://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/tools/3d_analyze/download/

http://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/tools/3d_analyze/tutorials/

http://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/tools/3d_analyze/archive/
June 8, 2007 1:21 AM PDT


Alex		 Doh,Its useless =/ as i sayd "They arent even watching this thread and just created it to pass the time" anyways,only way i see is windowblinds for the Glass effects on the edges but need to pay 20$ for that :/ and all the rest of effects from aero wont work (things like 3d-flip etc)so bleh,Oh and btw,everyone who got an laptop from PackardBell, Sony Vayo etc,try going on your laptop's homepage,maybe your laptop's corporation has the driver with WDDM as some of them might actually do them to encrease their sell cause intel (josh and the team)seems that they care a drat about this :p

Cheers.
June 8, 2007 7:47 AM PDT


yohansy		 Josh speaks please
June 8, 2007 10:14 AM PDT


dufang		 Josh, where are you? Say something please!
June 8, 2007 12:38 PM PDT


Luke		 Hey I tried that method posted By Toby on June 7th, 2007 at 1:34 pm.

1) I downloaded the latest driver and couldnt find that file that i was ment to edit.
2) I couldnt find the hardware ID in dxdiag. To find the hardware ID go to device manager, expand display and view properties of your graphics card then go to details then drop down list should be changed to hardware ids.
3) I downloaded all the past drivers but i couldnt find that file either in them, i looked myself then searched but found nothing

Can someone else try this ive had a look around on google and s few people seem to have posted this method to exceed the allowed limit on resolution. Maybe it does work but i got very confused.

I would really like a good hack for this to work.

Post here if you find anything, good try toby.

Ps. I did something and installed a different driver (i thought i had edited) then rebooted and the screen was just red lol so if this happens just reboot again and keep pressing the 'delete' key then start in safe mode, go to device manager and roll back the driver you changed.

Also if you want to try windowsblinds its availible on bittorrent if you use that
Luke.
June 8, 2007 6:10 PM PDT


Psycho46		 It look's like we are wasting time here waiting for miracle....
June 9, 2007 3:10 AM PDT


Disappointed_person		 Intel rather make more profits than creating the driver for WDDM, we believe that intel is cheating customers by labeling intel 915 GMS as 128MB.
This is a worst joke ever...
128MB is nothing right compare to nvidia and Ati...
We spent thousand of money buy intel's product and they did not show any respect on us!!!
Making us a stupid customer and labeling the laptop which is not older than 1 year old as OLD LEGACY EQUIPPED GRAPHIC CARD BASED LAPTOP....
@Josh...
You have done your best... just you were at the wrong company...
Hope they understand MONEY is more important than customers...
Poor Intel.... So despo for money
June 9, 2007 8:40 AM PDT


martin		 i have been running vista ultimate on my laptop since late last month. the only problem is that i have thi 915 card :(

i got drivers for every thing else but the graphics driver for the 915 is a xddm driver...whats the difference.

theres no doubt that josh is sittin in his officedoin his other work

intel wont bring out a driver for the 915...vista works fine without it..

for all it would be better to get it...im happy both ways
June 9, 2007 10:57 AM PDT


reedfoo59		 Bonjour,

Je suis dans le meme pétrain que vous tous, j'ai Vista mais pas de aero. Cest vraiment dommage que ca ne puisse pas fonctionner avec cette carte graphique.
En plus je ne suis pas tres bon en Anglais donc je ne comprend pas exactement ce qu'il se passe mais vu le nombre de message il doit y avoir quelque chose d'important concernant cette carte graphique.
Est ce qu'il y a un driver qui permet de faire fonctionner l'effet aero en developpement???
Si quelqu'un est bilingue pourrait il me resumer en 2 ou 3 ligne ce qui se passe sur ce blog

Merci !!
June 9, 2007 2:22 PM PDT


daniel		 Driver modification of GMA950 to intel 915 did not work!
June 10, 2007 3:55 AM PDT


robbie		 Seriously, this is not about eye candy. Imagine people buy a laptop, they like to portability. Now they upgrade OS, and the movie maker will not open! Some of us don' want to spend more money on 'extra' products. Look at apple and steal the idea, make a system that runs out of the box, email, mp3 player, movie maker, picture viewer...
Don't expect end-users to upgrade OS, then have to purchase 'extra' software so they can get back to where they were before.
Work with and demand satisfaction from MS, it only make Intel look like their development teams did not push back on MS development teams.
Screw the eye candy' just make sure the OS and features work properly, for customer satisfaction!

I have since sold my toshiba/w intel chipset and moved to HP/AMD.
I don't think it is as nice a machine but Intel had lost my business, for now.
-robbie
June 10, 2007 2:17 PM PDT


Malta		 Intel is crap guys.. I bought a Sony Vaio one of the best expensive notebooks on earth and guess what it has the intel 915 chipset grrrrrrrrrrr...No Aero, No Halo2 Vista , No DVD Maker and No Command and Conquer 3.... Its not loosing only Aero...Intel made our notebooks redundant...
June 11, 2007 8:00 AM PDT


Luke		 I have atempted to have a go at what Toby posted on June 7th, 2007 at 1:34 pm but ran into problems.

1) I downloaded all of the latest and past releases of the graphics driver but could not find the file 'igdlh.inf' to edit.
2) I searched for that file and found one on my computer already and not careing about my laptop that much becuase theres always a way to reverse anything except the system bios, i edited it according to the instructions and then rebooted and the system just went onto a red screeen every time so i went in safe mode and changed it back to the previous version.
3) If anyone can find out more about this or how to make it work please PLEASE post it here!

PS. This is the second time ive posted this, I think my last was deleted so dont know why.

Luke.
June 11, 2007 10:14 AM PDT


Andrew W		 Toby I tried it and it seems not to work.
June 12, 2007 1:33 AM PDT


Alex		 well well...3 months?and still nothing out ,well thats enough i guess,im gonna sell my lappy and the vista DVD to half price ^^ and with those 2 i might buy an other lappy with amd,nvidia and screw vista and intel :p gonna install Linux ,for what i need(Web designing/Multimedia editing) its great as it works and dont need an dratty wddm driver sheesh,so damn hard is it to make that driver?i mean gosh,they made the 945(card and driver) in less than a month so wth? anyways,see u guys out and dont expect much,want styling?just rollback to winxp (or install XP) and Vista Transformation Pack 6 with Windowblinds 5.5 enhanced for the "glass" and 2k Glass for transparency on windows.Cya guys.Cya Intel.
P.S : For Intel : Im not the only costumer u will loose :p dont worry about that XD

Cheers Mates
June 12, 2007 5:33 AM PDT


krish		 Driver modification of GMA950 to intel 915 worked.. Thanks a lot ketchrock for the hack.. Now I have Aero glass enabled in Ultimate...Wow its wonderful.. Movie maker and DVD maker too are working...
June 12, 2007 8:53 AM PDT


Slask		 Its really a shame for Intel that a new company like Stardock with a work force of few hundred people can bring about the Aero effect and Intel, such and old and renowned company with a work force of 100000+ people cannot do so. Intel should be ashamed of themselves. Till now, i was a die hard Intel fan, but not anymore. I've lost my respect for Intel.
June 12, 2007 9:39 AM PDT


dufang		 to reedfoo59:
en fait il y a pas grande chose qui s'est passe dans ce blog, tout le monde n'est pas content et c'est tout. ce que je trouve peut-etre utile pour toi c'est le post de ketchrock. cherche le en haut de ce blog
desole pour mon mauvais francais.
June 13, 2007 9:11 AM PDT


W3		 One result of this fiasco?

While I'm still holding out a faint hope of getting a proper driver for my 915-based laptop, I just advised my own mother to buy an AMD X2 based system. (Note: I almost pulled the trigger on one for myself as well...)

So, Josh, if you're still monitoring this, you can report to your superiors that the decision on this issue IS impacting sales, at least in some small way.
June 13, 2007 10:25 AM PDT


Slask		 Does anyone know which file is responsible for enabling Areo? Or which file is blocking Aero, in our case.
June 13, 2007 11:03 AM PDT


Andrew W		 It's not a file blocking Aero. After the beta drivers were released for the 915 Mirosoft changed the specs on Aero, so it will not work on the 915 at all.
June 13, 2007 11:06 AM PDT


Andrew W		 I just ran ati vista readiness and this is what it says for the 915 specs.

Video Card
Best: 256 MB 100% DirectX 9 graphic card with Pixel Shader 3.0 hardware support (ATI Radeon X1800 series or better)
You Have: Intel® 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family () Upgrade Recommended: Sorry, your video card does not meet this requirement. Upgrading to a more powerful video card will make all your applications look better. Click the 'We Recommend' button to see some great options.
Video Card Features - Minimum attributes of your Video Card Video RAM: Required - 256 MB , You have - 122.0 MB
Video Card 3D Acceleration: Required - Yes , You have - Yes
Video HW Transform & Lighting: Required - Yes , You have - No
Vertex Shader Ver.: Required - 3.0 , You have - 0.0
Pixel Shader Ver.: Required - 3.0 , You have - 2.0
June 13, 2007 6:12 PM PDT

randomblame
 I just thought I'd throw in the obligatory "Microshaft Blows" post in here. Oh yeah and intel should stick to CPUs they OBVIOUSLY dont have the capability to compete with AMD/ATI in driver development to support advanced GPUs. Centrino is a great platform, they should work to keep it's reputation.
June 13, 2007 8:11 PM PDT


Fulano		 krish can u please explain step by step what u did to get the hack to work? what is the exact model of ur intel card?
June 13, 2007 8:43 PM PDT


dky		 Josh Bancroft wrote: "As always, in the spirit of transparency, I'll keep you all updated."

where are you? i cant see your updates? are they transparent also?
June 13, 2007 8:47 PM PDT


yohansy		 krish can u please explain step by step what u did to get the hack to work? what is the exact model of ur intel card?

please please please

Josh speaks please
June 14, 2007 6:57 AM PDT


IBB		 you are the liar krish!!!do not believe you...because this is impossibly
June 14, 2007 2:52 PM PDT


Andrew W		 I follwed the same instructions and it didn't work on the 915 on a dell E310.

please post step by step krish.
June 14, 2007 2:57 PM PDT


Andrew W		 Are the GMA 900 and the 915 the same chip? He is using the 900GMA and we want a hack for the 915.
June 14, 2007 3:12 PM PDT


Ali		 Hi, This may be a start on a way to enable glass on non WDDM devices like my Intel 915, it will be enabled but it would give a error after some time.

Instructions:

Step 1 - Download Fast Aero
http://www.mytempdir.com/1322627 or
http://fastaero.wordpress.com/

Step 2 - Extract the files and run "fastaero.exe", click on "start vista glass..." then click "OK". Notepad will apear so exit it.

Step 3 - Open "Task Manager"; Ctrl+Shift+Esc, make sure your on "processes", right-click "explorer.exe" and click end process.

Step 4 - Again on "Task Manager" click; File --> New Task then type "explorer" and hit "OK."
June 14, 2007 3:17 PM PDT


Andrew W		 I tried it again and it says the computer doesn't meet the minum requirements to install the software.
June 14, 2007 4:26 PM PDT


Francisco Puente		 Hi,

I installed Windows Vista Beta2 on this computer some time ago, using an intel 915 chip, and it ran Aero Glass without any problem at all. Now that I installed the final version of Windows Vista Business, it doesn't.

Seems to me that the hardware is just ok to run Aero Glass, if Microsoft don't let Intel "create a certified driver" I think you could release the driver as "beta", "uncertified" or maybe "run-it-at-your-own-risk"... most people would be satisfied with it, many of us just want to run the full Aero thing (not gaming), or as a fix for the DVD playback.

Thanks.
June 14, 2007 7:14 PM PDT


HelpUs		 This is worse than the Pentium calculation error from the early '90s - which Intel rapidly addressed. Can you say Tylenol? Intel this is a customer service DAYMARE! Do something. Help US!!!

This could be the final blow to Microsoft pushing people to use Linux or go with OS X.

We all know a driver WILL be released, just let it out of the gates NOW. You're only hurting yourself. Need I go on?!?!
June 14, 2007 8:20 PM PDT


Andrew W		 Ali that says it is fow Windows xp not vista
June 15, 2007 2:55 AM PDT


IBB		 Vystal is a program that can change the apperance of your Windows borders to Aero glass ...its for XP but work on Vista to!


http://vystal.de.vu/
June 15, 2007 5:00 AM PDT


Psycho46		 ali post worked on acer 3610
June 15, 2007 6:59 AM PDT


dky		 to those that still dont know weather its microsoft's fault or intel's...

open COMMAND PROMPT on "start>all programs>accesories>Command Prompt" (right click and select run as administrator)

once "Command Prompt window" opens type: "c:\Windows\System32\>winsat features" press enter

probably you'll just need to type: "winsat features" press enter

Its Intel's fault, no doubt abolut it. The only thing missing on my computer is the LDDM Driver.

Josh do you still need more proof? hardware limitations? thats bs!
June 15, 2007 7:34 AM PDT


CageIT		 Tried the modified 950 driver install and
it does not work. The driver installs for me
but windows can't start it. Intel really should
have supported this chipset in Vista from day one.
I am very disappointed.
June 15, 2007 11:58 AM PDT


Andrew W		 After runing the winsat features the only thing missing on mine is the LDDM driver also.
June 16, 2007 12:51 AM PDT


Hikashi		 That is why intel graphic card promises to the customers...
If they handle things like that...
then so be it....
it would be a proof to all the customers what will happened if same problems pop out...
they better figure out and solve it ASAP...
June 16, 2007 7:56 AM PDT


Slask		 ali post worked for me too. thanks Ali.
June 16, 2007 11:45 AM PDT


Andy R		 The thing is guys, the Intel GMA900 was never designed with Vista in mind. Also, Graphics is not one of Intel's major market investments, despite a broadly successful start. Intel is first and foremost a CPU hardware development company, this is where they really deliver.

I think it would be nice if Intel came out with a driver by the Vista SP1, but i won't be ultra worried if it doesn't, just disappointed. I wouldn't try a hacked driver if someone payed me to do it, my Laptop is far too important to screw up.
June 16, 2007 3:38 PM PDT


Yoshi		 Enable Aero on SUPPORTED Cards, with no drivers!
------------------------------------------------------------
1. Click on the start menu and type in devmgmt.msc and Enter to load it up.
2. Expand the Display Adapters section and right click on each device and select Uninstall.
3. Reboot the computer.
4. When it restarts, it should install a generic video driver so your screen will still work.
5. Go back into Device Manager, expand the Display Adapters section again and then right click on the device and select Update Driver.
6. This time select Browse My Computer for Driver and then Let me pick it from a list.
7. Go to the Graphics section closest to your Graphics Card and select the Driver closest, too.
8. Hit OK and install the new driver. Restart your computer.
9. Once you have rebooted, right click on your desktop and select Personalize again.
10. Click on Windows Colors and Appearance.
11. Click on Open classic appearance properties for more color options.
12. In the Color Scheme box, select Windows Vista Aero.
13. Hit OK and glass will now load.
June 16, 2007 8:34 PM PDT


dky		 Andy R installing a hacked driver would never screw your Laptop, unless you dont know what you are doing.
June 17, 2007 10:26 AM PDT


Slask		 Check this out:
http://maxupload.com/img/13B0155E.jpg
Is anybody out there still in doubt that i915 is incapable of running Aero/WDDM?
June 17, 2007 1:35 PM PDT


arkoss		 @Slask

you have fastaero running on your pc, is not the same thing to have a wddm driver
June 17, 2007 2:07 PM PDT


Andrew W		 Slask is that your computer? If it is how did you get to run?
June 17, 2007 2:36 PM PDT


ajeffreys		 Please tell me how you did that if it is your computer.
June 17, 2007 2:44 PM PDT


DocArt		 Slask do you have any solution(s) ?
Regards
June 17, 2007 4:19 PM PDT


dky		 IMPORTANT INFO!!!!!!!!! HERE'S MORE PROOF!!!!!!!
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For those that still have doubt of the hardware capabilities for running AERO on an intel 915...
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Fist of all: Intel 915G = GMA 900
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On Intel's website I downloaded the following document: "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 Series Software Developer's Guide". On page 8 of this developers guide Intel compares the Intel 915G Chipset with other two video cards. Take a look and you will see that Intel 915G Chipset is superior on all hardware specifications. One of the cards compared is an nVidia GeForce FX 5200 and guess what? it has WDDM support. See for yourself:
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Intel' developers guide:
http://download.intel.com/ids/gma/Intel_915G_SDG_Feb05.pdf
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nVidia's drivers support website:
(select: "Graphics Driver > GeForce FX Series > Windows Vista 32-bit" and hit "Go" on the left. On the left menu of this new page select "Products Supported". And there is the GeForce FX 5200.)
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
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Intel please stop lying to your customers. I know we are different species from you but we still are intelligent beings and we have feelings.
June 17, 2007 4:26 PM PDT


Andrew W		 Slask looking at your screenshot again it looks like you are using a laptop. We need the Desktop driver for the 915 not laptop driver.
June 18, 2007 2:26 AM PDT


midnight72		 Slask using Fastaero not WDDM driver

http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=i915rs0.jpg

Fastaero is a free beta software like windowblinds
June 18, 2007 2:31 AM PDT

midnight72
 Slask is using Fastaero, NOT WDDM DRIVER!!

http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=i915rs0.jpg

Fastaero is a free beta software like windowblinds
June 18, 2007 4:25 AM PDT


dufang		 Slask! How did you do that! Tell us please!! We will all appreciate for that!
June 18, 2007 4:45 AM PDT


midnight72		 Slask is using Fastaero NOT WDDM driver!!!!
http://img461.imageshack.us/my.php?image=i915vn1.jpg

Fastaero is a free beta software like windowblinds!
June 18, 2007 7:30 AM PDT


luke		 Slask used fast aero can you not see how the inside of the aero effect is dodgy and some buttons are missing (minimize etc...) Someone posted abot fash aero before, i tried it but it was too dodgy for me try it for yourself if this is the kind of solution you want...

'Quote'
By Ali on June 14th, 2007 at 2:12 pm


Hi, This may be a start on a way to enable glass on non WDDM devices like my Intel 915, it will be enabled but it would give a error after some time.

Instructions:

Step 1 - Download Fast Aero
http://www.mytempdir.com/1322627 or
http://fastaero.wordpress.com/

Step 2 - Extract the files and run "fastaero.exe", click on "start vista glass..." then click "OK". Notepad will apear so exit it.

Step 3 - Open "Task Manager"; Ctrl+Shift+Esc, make sure your on "processes", right-click "explorer.exe" and click end process.

Step 4 - Again on "Task Manager" click; File --> New Task then type "explorer" and hit "OK."



Luke.
June 18, 2007 8:01 AM PDT


Slask		 Hi everyone, that screenshot is from my own laptop and as u can see i m having the i915 chipset. i tried the method described by Ali i.e. using Fast Aero and it worked for me. I think it should work for your all as well.
June 18, 2007 9:19 AM PDT


Andrew W		 The trick does not wor on a Dell Dimension E310 with an Intel 82915 vidoechip. I tried it 2 different and it didn't work.
June 18, 2007 9:48 AM PDT


Slask		 @ arkoss, my point is, i915 is perfectly capable of running Aero and hence a WDDM driver can be written for it. It is true that Fast Aero only enables the glass like effect but that is only to the upper portion of the window i.e. Title Bar, the rest is not rendered translucent. as u can see from the screenshot that the area near the address bar and search fiels of Control Panel is still vista basic.
June 18, 2007 11:59 AM PDT


Andrew W		 Kirsh what model of intel chip do you have? Is it a desktop or laptop?

Still waiting for you to post step by instructions
June 18, 2007 1:05 PM PDT


Slask		 Hey Andrew, I m also waitin for Kirsh to reply. I wonder if he is even visiting this page as his purpose is solved now.
June 18, 2007 1:18 PM PDT


Andrew W		 I just hope if he does come back that he is using a desktop and not a laptop.
June 18, 2007 1:21 PM PDT


Dino J.		 Thank you so much, Josh Bancroft for all your efforts. I pray that yes a beta open source release of WDDM for 915 would be successful.

This battle is so unfortunate. The lesson we learn in here is NOT TO BELIEVE PC vendors and Software vendors . . . I guess it is better to wait before making any purchase . . .

God bless you all.
June 18, 2007 1:41 PM PDT


Slask		 I hope that they realese a 915 WDDM driver for both laptop and desktop. By the way Andrew, is there any difference between desktop 915 and laptop 915?
June 18, 2007 2:27 PM PDT


Andrew W		 I don't know. I think there might be. I tried he 945GM driver repacing the 945GM hardware with what is listed as the hardward ID of the xp driver that vista installs since I don't have xp.
June 18, 2007 3:00 PM PDT


Andrew W		 I would be happy if they just release the driver or workaround to enable the dvd/movie maker in vista.
June 19, 2007 9:37 AM PDT


romanca		 I am having another issue. I connect my notebook with intel 915 card to external monitor which is wide screen. when I first instaled vista in the february I could get a widescreen resolution 1680x1050 working. After they have released update to driver trough windows update I have lost this widescreen resolution and I can get only regular 4:3 resolutions. Can I do something about it and get widescreen resolution working again?
June 19, 2007 6:39 PM PDT


Ali		 I Have found a similar way to enable the newer version of FastAero without the errors on any Graphics Card even without WDDM like Intel 915.
Instructions:

Step 1 - Download FastAero build 0600: http://www.uploading.com/files/UEA9F01I/FastAero_beta0600.7z.html (Needs Winrar or 7Zip to extract)

Step 2 - Extract the archive in a familiar place where you would rememeber like root; C:\

Step 3 - Open taskmanager (CTRL+SHIFT+ESC), on 'Processes' right-click 'explorer.exe' and click 'End Process'

Step 4 - Again in taskmanager click on file->New Task and choose the file 'FastAero.exe' (Where you extracted the FastAero archive)in my case c:\, click 'Start' on fastaero

Step 5 - On Taskmanager click File->New Task and type 'explorer' and hit 'enter' or click 'ok'.

This works better than the previous version where there were errors after a window was minimized/maximized.
June 19, 2007 8:01 PM PDT


Andrew W		 Ali

I can't get that to work. I tried 7zip and it does nothing. Winrar says the file is corrupt.

Andrew W
June 20, 2007 4:20 AM PDT


IBB		 This seems uglily on my laptop...full bugs.
June 20, 2007 1:56 PM PDT


Ali		 Anderw W
The file must be corrupt, re-download it and I recommend opening it in Winrar.

Download - http://www.uploading.com/files/UEA9F01I/FastAero_beta0600.7z.html

http://fastaero.wordpress.com/
June 20, 2007 2:07 PM PDT


Ali		 Is it possible to retreive DWM files, Winsat, or even some regestry keys from Vista Beta which the 915's Aero glass worked!
June 20, 2007 2:58 PM PDT


IBB		 Its not possible...915 worked during the beta tests because Vista didn't need WDDM at that time..and now need!
June 20, 2007 5:43 PM PDT


yohansy		 josh josh josh speaks please!!!!!!!!!
June 20, 2007 8:15 PM PDT


Lara Pujangga		 Is'it Possible that we change the graphic card on our notebook? (Mean Upgrade intel915 to intel945)
June 20, 2007 10:14 PM PDT


Hikashi		 he has gone for real...
maybe intel just threat ppl like that...
consumers right = nothing at all...
money speaks
June 21, 2007 1:33 PM PDT


IBB		 No Lara...you cant change graphic card in you notebook...only you can do its wait like us,or buy better laptop if you want aero or movie maker....
June 21, 2007 5:28 PM PDT


Andrew W		 I just got a resonse back that Intel will not release the driver. I even enclosed the output of the winsat features command.
June 21, 2007 7:31 PM PDT


Frozenbox		 Hey, I got an Idea!!

Let me upgrade my laptop by ripping it open, blow torching the 915GM out of it and soldering a GM950 onto it. Crappy Acer Aspire 1640 with GM915...

6 months b4 vista Launch - US$1130 @ Circuit City.

Friends, I got happily hosed, by Acer and Intel - And I've been a HUGE fan of Intel since my first 80286 (Olivetti M250).

What's a guy to do?
June 22, 2007 10:21 AM PDT


kostas1500		 how can i download drivers for intel 950 gm 128???i've installed the game:infernal and windows said that i need to update my drivers.(i have a laptop)
June 23, 2007 3:07 PM PDT


funny		 Josh! Come back!
June 24, 2007 8:09 AM PDT


Manuel		 Hi all from Spain,

I tried installing 945 driver.

Result--> crash.

:-((

I can't believe Intel is going to allow losing so many customers because of this issue. Because they will. For sure.
June 24, 2007 11:58 AM PDT


Ayrton		 hello i found this:
1. Open up Regedit.
2. Navigate through HKEY_local_machine, Software, and Microsoft.
3. Create a new KEY called DWM.
4. In the new DWM key you created, create a DWORD called EnableMachineCheck.
5. Make sure this value is set to 0 and hardware checking is now disabled.
has enyone tried it?
June 25, 2007 10:33 AM PDT


Colin		 WDDM driver for gma900!!!! Intel!
June 26, 2007 7:32 AM PDT


Andres Ventura		 the video card Intel Graphics Average Accelerator 950GM supports Directx 10 ?
June 26, 2007 9:22 AM PDT


Slask		 Yes, 950GM supports Directx 10 and so does GMA 900/915.
June 26, 2007 9:23 AM PDT


Slask		 Yes, 950GM supports Directx 10, and so does GMA 900/915.
June 26, 2007 2:20 PM PDT


dufang		 Ayrton, does it work? I don't think so
June 26, 2007 6:18 PM PDT


Censored		 Im just wondering...if the driver that came with the beta2 release worked fine, then how hard would it be to pull that driver out and try using it with the retail version?
June 26, 2007 6:20 PM PDT


Censored		 ugh, never mind my last comment...i dont think WDDM was implemented at that stage, so...
June 27, 2007 2:00 AM PDT


Luis Slaova		 Ayrton, it worked in the beta, but it isn't working in the final version of Vista.
June 27, 2007 3:33 AM PDT


Ayrton		 the only thing we can do is wait for intel to release the driver!
June 27, 2007 9:00 AM PDT


Fast Aero		 http://www.petitiononline.com/intel915/petition.html
June 27, 2007 9:55 AM PDT


Slask		 That petition is there forever. I dont know when he'll submit it to Intel.
June 27, 2007 3:23 PM PDT


arkoss		 @Censored

driver in beta release not working on retail or rtm, driver name is intel lakeport wddm and after installing on vista final version you have a pc with a black screen
June 27, 2007 7:05 PM PDT


dky		 I wonder if Josh was able to speak to graphics team...
June 27, 2007 10:04 PM PDT


Kannan		 I don't think intel will consider wddm for 915 until unless if they face legal notice. But we can't do this. So either we can exchange our laptop or live with XP. But the learning curve is don't belive company like intel. Insted of intel we can move AMD, and ATI(video) etc.....
June 28, 2007 5:12 PM PDT


Bill_Gets		 Nothing is going to enable the INTEL 915 GMS to enable Window Aero Theme Or Running Window Movie Maker....
Please Take Note...

Thanks For Giving Us The Experience Of Enjoying Aero Effect At Beta....

Flame You For Being Such A Self-Centered Person...
I know 915 Meet The Requirement and WE JUST WANT TO RUN THE SOFTWARE ONLY....

IF YOU, INTEL Cannot Promise Us Such A Easy Task...
I bet AT Future You Guys Will Get What You Deserve.....
June 28, 2007 10:16 PM PDT


LWW		 Well my company just received 165 laptops that have the i915 video, and I installed Vista Enterprise and discovered that the Aero Glass and associated features ie: Movie Maker and DVD Recorder were not functional. Consiquently, we have obtained an RMA for the whole shipment and have arranged to have all units replaced with ADM processors/chipsets for the same model of laptop. Guess Intel better wake up and come up with a Firmware upgrade and Driver for their products to remain compatible with the latest OS that Microsoft is producing. Fairwell INTEL or is that NUNTEL.
June 28, 2007 10:57 PM PDT


Arthur		 Josh Bancroft,if are already open this question and give us some hope then us at least became skilled how advance or at least lines if give up or have not solved nothing along this question.....is not nicely that nothing do not say because crowded here expects your results.
June 28, 2007 11:26 PM PDT


Nick		 Well, I also communicated with Microsoft on the Vista blog.. they say that "Intel has no plans to release WDDM drivers for your graphics card" (ie. 915GM) I don't think that there should be any problems from the Microsoft's side to permit the WDDM driver... its just that Intel is promoting it's 945 GM card... Thanx to intel, my brand new laptop is just garbage.. Ive got a double duo processor with a 2GB ram, but i cant run Aero becoz of this WDDM issue.. this really sux.... But yeah, someone got the link to windowblinds 5.5 enhanced with crack working in Vista (I dont wana spend more money on buying softwares cuz Ive had enough)
June 28, 2007 11:33 PM PDT


Nick		 Check this out:
http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-023606.htm#3

I guess this clears all doubts... No WDDM for 915 for sure..
June 29, 2007 2:31 PM PDT


Andy R		 Dear god...the noobs!

No, neither the Intel GMA900 nor the GMA950 support DX10, they are both DX9 only. The GMA900 supports DX9b and the GMA950 supports DX9c. Only the GMA3100 supports DX10 and that's intel's latests integrated graphics chip.

And Kannan, why are you even here if you're an AMD guy? Go buy AMD, for what little they're worth, and be done with it! Jeez, u turn what is an ordinary support thread into a flame thread. I don't want to touch AMD processors, they're just not as good, especially in Laptops. For PCs, Intel are currently way in the lead with their CPUs, WAY in the lead! ATI i'm not so fond of either, although i would buy a graphics card from them. I'm not happy with the way AMD have pudged them, so now they came out with DX10 cards months later than they should have and even then, they're not up to scratch to compete against the Geforce 8 series from nVidia.
June 29, 2007 3:21 PM PDT


G Mayhew		 I feel cheated and I am very irrated by the very short support span that intels products have. I personally have now changed to AMD, and I would recommend people do the same. If you were to look at dell's site now you would see that AMD is starting to replace the Intel market.
June 29, 2007 3:25 PM PDT


G Mayhew		 lol i just read the slogan at the top of the page...

Intel has the software.... let the dialogue begin

More like

Intel lacks the software... let the moaning begin
July 2, 2007 12:24 AM PDT


sam		 Krish tell me the detailed steps of how u enabled aero?? r u telling the truth..because people come and check daily this page.. If there is any reply.. I dont think u have got it enabled.. if so y r u hiding the truth..Please post......
July 2, 2007 12:54 AM PDT


Tritsma		 I'm Affraid he's right about the support for DirectX 10, just look at the graph in this wiki article

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA
July 2, 2007 3:56 AM PDT


John Abraham		 Hello everyone,
Just came acroos this page while browsing..so I thought of putting a word to u all..I dont understand y people are so much crazy about having aero enabled on their pc's. Its just an eye candy..I myself is using Vista ultimate with aero turned off..and if it is for Movie maker, microsoft has already released movie maker 2.6 and for DVD maker there are many other softwares such as Adobe - Encore DVD CS3..which I personally consider as the best DVD authoring program on this planet..So y bother having "AERO"...
and I say to u people out there that never ever can AERO be enabled on Intel 915 chipsets as the hardware scheduler is missing..the fact that it worked on Vista Beta 2 is that Vista was using XP driver model to enable aero..
As a chip design engineer, I would like to say... all the hack mentioned above are a gud waste of time either it will screw up the components by installing modified driver which will wrongly interpret the driver software to make that particular hardware to work.. So guys dont waste time by trying these worthless hacks..
You can always buy a gud graphics card from vendors like Nviidia... etc..by putting some dollars.. If at all u want AERo support..

Thanks,
John...
July 2, 2007 9:23 AM PDT


yohansy		 Josh Bancroft you are a liar
July 2, 2007 8:45 PM PDT


Andrew W		 Hey John Why should the customer who upgraded to vista have to buy more software just to burn movies in Vista since tjhe 82915 has no WDM driver?

What are people supposed to do when all they have is the integrated graphics and the pci slots are full?
July 3, 2007 5:14 AM PDT


John Abraham		 Andrew W, such impossibilities have to be overruled in my opinion.. people should think in a positive way I mean they have to accept the fact.. the reality..
They have to find an alternative...may be a freeware equivalent to Windows DVD maker..
I have found one for you:
http://www.dirfile.com/video_dvd_maker_free.htm
July 3, 2007 8:07 AM PDT


frax		 Why Intel has developed a new version of XP drivers for GMA 950 and upper (v 14.29 April 2007) and not for GMA 900 (last version 14.25 January 2007) ?
I rise this question because 14.29 drivers works fine on a GMA 900 under Vista. I think that Intel wants to leave the support for GMA 900 because it is an ancient product that already does not bring benfits.
July 3, 2007 10:04 AM PDT


Andrew W		 John you are missing my point why should I have to install more software (even if it is free it takes up room on the hard drive) if vista already has it and it would work if the video card had WDM drivers?
July 3, 2007 9:37 PM PDT


John Abraham		 Andrew, I already mentioned in the previous post that 915 was designed well before Vista's WDDM specification came in.. that means in the layman's term "WDDM Driver for 915 cannot be written" or it is impossible to write.If at all there was to be a WDDM Driver for 915 it would'nt work properly as an Integral component called Hardware Scheduler is missing in 915 chipsets..which enables Hardware Transform and Lighting(HTL) that refers to the task of converting spatial coordinates, which in this case involves moving three-dimensional objects in a virtual world and converting the coordinates to a two-dimensional view. Lighting refers to the task of taking light objects in a virtual scene, and calculating the resulting colour of surrounding objects as the light falls upon them.
And u can check this page which says the truth abt HTL:
http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-011910.htm

Hope this answers your question..
July 3, 2007 10:56 PM PDT


krish		 Guys... I'm back... sorry to say that my PC crashed after installing the modified driver.. I fired the PC this morning and I'm horrified to see that the welcome screen is with random green patches.. Now I'm afraid is there anything abt the hardware which got screwed up
July 4, 2007 3:07 AM PDT


jake		 Im really stuffed. My Intel M 23GHz laptop i only got about 8 months ago. I ran xp for about 6 months with WindowBlinds vista skin! it was great. Then i bought vista ultimate- thought id have aero and evreything- just vista basic! No Aero scheme nothing! I have a Intel 915GM 128MB ram, 512MB Intel M 23GHz Toshiba! Help!
July 4, 2007 3:08 AM PDT


jake		 Can i just add that on XP i had vista aero with blur- worked perfectly- Now im on the real deal and its not there! Is there some registrey hack i could try?
July 4, 2007 10:02 AM PDT


Douglas W. Goodall		 I am waiting for a class action suit about the "Vista Capable" stickers. I purchased three VC desktops and a pricey Sony Vaio none of which have enough hardware to run premium Vista. I will never forget this and I vote with my wallet.
July 4, 2007 11:19 AM PDT


Andrew W		 Isn't the driver really software? If that's the case why can the 82915 emulate the aero interface using windows blinds?
July 4, 2007 1:48 PM PDT


Slask		 I Agree with Andrew. Check out this screenshot posted earlier by me:
http://maxupload.com/img/13B0155E.jpg
Here, a small program called FastAero can bring about the glass effect, then why not Intel write a proper WDDM driver for the i915. This screenshot also proves that i915 is perfectly capable of running Aero user interface and hence a WDDM driver can be written for it.
July 4, 2007 3:31 PM PDT


Andrew W		 Slask do you have a desktop or laptop? That is not the same chip the 82915 not the mobile intel.

Well I finally decided to abandon the hopes of getting the wddm driver and bought a new video card and it should be here by friday.

Even though I will have the ew card I will still hold out hope for the driver.

Also did anyone notice a major pc seller switched video chipsets from Intel to a better one?
July 4, 2007 5:46 PM PDT


Andrew W		 Slask I am sorry after reading more the chipset is the same sorry for asking. Like I said before if the 82915 chipset can run run aero like features using window blinds/fastaero, why doesn't someone write a driver for it?
July 4, 2007 10:45 PM PDT


John Abraham		 Andrew W, May I know which graphics card u have ordered and the cost of the same
July 5, 2007 12:28 AM PDT


Andrew W		 I ordered this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814161017


Since I have no free pci slots and the dell dimension E310 has only a pci express1 slot this was my only option.
July 6, 2007 4:40 AM PDT


Pamela		 Is Josh Bancroft sleeping...Ohh Josh wake up from deep slumber,,,,,,,,,,
July 6, 2007 3:03 PM PDT


Andrew W		 John I recieved the card to today and if you have a pci x1 slot without a free pci slot I would reccomend that card. The dell actually runs faster and I can use movie maker now.
July 6, 2007 7:54 PM PDT


John Abraham		 Andrew, What is the score do u get for Aero in the performance rating??r u able to run Aero??
July 6, 2007 8:23 PM PDT


Andrew W		 Yes it's running Aero.

2.0 for graphics and 3.4 gaming graphics
July 6, 2007 8:28 PM PDT


Andrew W		 I forgot to add Movie maker runs also.
July 7, 2007 1:55 PM PDT

bmorris1006
 I would just like to post that since upgrading to Vista this last weekend, I have been unable to play WOW due to my driver stopping responding. Actually all of my games more intense than Solitaire will go to a black screen and then unfreeze for a few moments. After spending time with Warcraft tech's on the phone, we have come to believe that my Nvidia GeForce 6200 PCI card is not to blame, but that my 82915 is not compatible with Vista. Is there any way around this to get my games to work? Or am I at the mercy of Intel to release a driver? Or is it possible to just upgrade the chipset without rebuilding my whole computer? Any advice would be helpful. My WEI is 3.9 Procc, 4.4 Mem, 2.7 Graph, 2.8 Gaming, and 5.4 HD.
July 7, 2007 3:53 PM PDT


Charbel Saad		 Hey there, I have a Sony VAIO VGN-BX561B Laptop with a Mobile Intel® 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset and it doesn't run Aero.
- Is there anyway to upgrade my graphics card?
- Does anyone know how can I replace the Vista Basic Theme with the Vista Standard Theme, or maybe just replace the caption buttons (Minimize, Maximize and Close buttons) to look like the ones in Aero?
July 8, 2007 2:31 PM PDT


funny		 anyone knows if a laptop can change the video card? I think no. So I have to wait here.
July 8, 2007 7:52 PM PDT


Andrew W		 nope you can't change a laptop video card.
July 8, 2007 9:07 PM PDT


JMPZ		 Josh is trying to help - stop flaming the guy who is trying to help.

My 2 cents:
When you manufacture components designed for integrated systems, it is expected that people will be using them beyond the typical lifespan of an upgradable component. It is the manufacturers responsibility to actively support their product while it is still incorporated in systems, and used by a significant number of people.

When the majority of users request a feature, it is good practice to "waste" some resources providing the feature.

The 915 can do everything necessary to be WDDM except one: be certified.

It might be a little slower, because some feature must be done in software rather than hardware, but I can assure you that none of us care. We just want the ability to use the features. Unsigned, uncertified, under-the-table drivers would be a blessing.

If intel refuses to work on it because they consider the chipset to be "legacy", then for heaven's sake, release some source code and let the bored masses do the work for you!!!

Thanks.
July 9, 2007 12:27 AM PDT


Miguel A. Zafra		 Each day I'm sure that Intel is waiting that this storm will be over.. They will not publish any driver at all, nor beta, nor GPL.. So I hope we all learn the lesson and not buy more Intel products (I won't)..
July 9, 2007 5:07 AM PDT


whatever_is_fake		 yeah u cant... that is what intel is expecting for...
oh my god... poor laptop cannot change graphic card... we recommend you buy our latest product so that we can earn more money while you guys can enjoy what you deserve...
that's probably what intel up to...
if they do not provide answer within 10 months...
mean that they are probably the guy who are money minded and self-centered
July 9, 2007 5:10 AM PDT


John Abraham		 Hi Andrew, Just wanted to inform I bought this card

http://www.amazon.com/Geforce-7600-Gt-256MB-DDR3/dp/B000HKIJ92

and the rating for Aero i get is 5.6
The Aero performance is astounding!!!!!
July 9, 2007 7:03 AM PDT


Andrew W		 I looked at that card also, but like I said earlier I have no free pci slots and the PCI express 1 card is good choice for people who have at least 2 gigs of memory.
July 9, 2007 9:51 PM PDT


JMPZ		 Somehow I doubt Intel has anything to lose by releasing the source code for the drivers for a "legacy" chipset. Intel is no competitor for Nvidia / ATI - there are really no profits to be lost by freeing up the intellectual property.

In this case I believe a release of source code would benefit everybody (except maybe Microsoft who wants exclusive licensing fees and rights to WDDM drivers :) )
July 10, 2007 7:29 PM PDT


Michael		 Just posting to say that there are others who have checked and continue to check this site regularly hoping for good news. I have even considered trying to replace the motherboard in my laptop! Windows Movie Maker 2.6 is released, and works on the 915--but this is useless for me without Windows DVD maker, which still won't run. Aargh.
July 10, 2007 11:40 PM PDT


John Abraham		 Hi JMPZ, I dont think Intel softwares or drivers are tagged to opensource or GPL agreement..are they??
The whole driver software copyright is exclusively owned by Intel..and the specification copyright for Windows drivers by Microsoft..I think I make sense...rite:)
July 10, 2007 11:42 PM PDT


John Abraham		 I forgot to add even if the chipset is considered legacy they own the copyright otherwise we would have the source code for all the drivers for chipsets which are considered legacy..what say??
July 11, 2007 2:45 PM PDT


Ali		 Hi, I have 2 registry files from my other PC with GeForce FX 5700, one with without aero XPDM, and one with aero WDDM.

It could be possible to compare these and find out what changed to enable aero so we can add those registry entries and make vista think we have WDDM.

Does anyone know of a program that compares full registry files?
July 11, 2007 2:50 PM PDT


Ali		 Hi, a new, more stable Fastaero version is available enabling glass blur, changable font and you can minimize it into a toolbar icon so you dont have to keep the window always open.
Download
http://fastaero.wordpress.com/
July 12, 2007 7:37 AM PDT


funny		 Ali, you can use this parameter in CMD,
fc c:\1.reg c:\2.reg /u>c:answer.txt.
Expect your result. But I think it's a little difficile to compare, there are lots of differences between two registry files.
July 12, 2007 4:53 PM PDT


funny		 Hi,everyone with the 915 video card, I just find a litte problem: when I click to turn off my laptop, after a while, the screen turns to black surely, but just before the power is to be cut, the screen become lighted again for about 5 seconds(of course there is just the backlight on, nothing on the screen),and then the power is off.
That happens every time I turn off my laptop. Does that look normal? I'm with the latest Intel 915 video card driver. Thanks!
July 14, 2007 11:19 AM PDT


NeelKool		 Guys,I am using the same intel 915 Graphic card & i have lost hope that intel might release any update for this card.
So i started to search for any software that might support transparency & thank to "TrueTransparency Software" which is a freeware software,I was able to get what i wanted.
Do try this software until there is any progress from intel
You can download the software through the website

http://www.crystalxp.net/galerie/en.id.5139-truetransparency.....-tools.htm
July 14, 2007 8:50 PM PDT


Earl B.R.		 Hi all, I'm an elec.enginner, former ATI graphics card driver developer. After a quick look at 915 schematics, and knowing how vista drivers work for quite a long time, I'd happy to say that it's not that hard for an elec.eng. (not for me, at least) to write a decent graphics driver for that intel chipset (given the proper time). I've worked before with two other very talented developers that could help me with this. All that's needed now is time. As time = money, I'm looking for some people who could 'sponsor our free time' to write this driver.
July 15, 2007 5:38 AM PDT


IBB		 Yes, with this driver all is normally and possibly only aero not!
July 15, 2007 7:26 PM PDT


XAVIER		 I am trying my best guys to do everything I can to help everyone out here too.

We all need to think posatively!


I did try Toby and Krish? 's drive workaround , however it didn't work out to good .

I did however let me install the driver but I recieved a code 43 or code 31 error from the adaptor , which forced my system to use default VGA adaptor drivers. (And no that didn't enable aero iether)

The realy sad part about this (for me anyway) is all the needless registry hack I have tried.
And the fact that most of those registry entries I can not recall which I tried.

So I have entries in there I don't even need.


But Anyway...

I have done a little research on this and I think im just going to go back to the RC1 or RC2 build and use the Lakeport driver workaround , or if that doesn't work go back to the BETA.


To the best of my knowledge this should be a little easier to enable in XP SP2 but i have lost the fighting spirit to try.

Best of luck


~X~
July 15, 2007 7:32 PM PDT


XAVIER		 I am trying my best guys to do everything I can to help everyone out here too.

We all need to think posatively!


I did try Toby and Krish? 's drive workaround , however it didn't work out to good .

I did however let me install the driver but I recieved a code 43 or code 31 error from the adaptor , which forced my system to use default VGA adaptor drivers. (And no that didn't enable aero iether)

The realy sad part about this (for me anyway) is all the needless registry hack I have tried.
And the fact that most of those registry entries I can not recall which I tried.

So I have entries in there I don't even need.


But Anyway...

I have done a little research on this and I think im just going to go back to the RC1 or RC2 build and use the Lakeport driver workaround , or if that doesn't work go back to the BETA.


To the best of my knowledge this should be a little easier to enable in XP SP2 but i have lost the fighting spirit to try.

Best of luck


~X
July 16, 2007 2:18 AM PDT


Adolfo		 Thanks for hearing your customers intel! =(
July 16, 2007 9:32 AM PDT


yohansy		 josh josh josh josh josh speaks
July 16, 2007 12:39 PM PDT


Simxx18		 PLEASE intel! we NEED this driver!
July 16, 2007 5:34 PM PDT


XAVIER		 @ Earl B.R.
@Earl B.R.
@EarlB.R.

Sorry I have anounced your name 3 times , im trying to get your attention.

Please see the following link.

http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/BidRequests/ShowBi.....tId=727656
July 16, 2007 5:45 PM PDT


XAVIER		 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!! IT LOOKS LIKE FOR THE TIME BEING !!!!!!!
!!!!!!! Crystal XP/Lefreut TrueTansperency !!!!!!!
!!!!!!! IS THE BEST TEMPORARY SOLUTION !!!!!!!


GET IT HERE THANK YOU NEEL!!!!!!!!!
AND A BIG THANK YOU TO THE AUTHOR LEFREUT AND CRYSTALXP

http://www.CrystalXP.NET
July 17, 2007 8:22 AM PDT


Slask		 @Earl B.R.

u got ur sponsor;

http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/BidRequests/ShowBi.....tId=727656

Thanks to XAVIER.
July 17, 2007 8:54 AM PDT


funny		 Earl B.R.!
Earl B.R.!
Earl B.R.!
We are so looking forward to it, no matter how long it would take. We will be always waiting for you.
Intel will never do anything, as we all know. It sucks, Intel!
July 17, 2007 11:58 AM PDT


Simxx18		 EARL B.R!!! we are ALL looking forward! please dont give up!!
July 18, 2007 12:30 PM PDT


Sesse		 YES...please Earl
....Try to make the driver...We need your knowledge...
July 20, 2007 7:24 PM PDT


ted		 I have the i915 in my Dell laptop, and I tried this to a frozen pc result:
First, I had to open up device manager. Clicked on the start menu and typed in devmgmt.msc and Enter to load it up.
Once there, expanded the Display Adapters section and right click on each device and selected Uninstall.
Rebooted the computer.
When it restarts, it installed a generic video driver so the screen would still work.
went back into Device Manager, expanded the Display Adapters section again and then right click on the device and selected Update Driver.
This time selected Browse My Computer for Driver and then Let me pick it from a list.
went to the Intel section and select the Intel® Lakeport Graphics Controller.
Hit OK and installed the new driver. Restarted computer.
I could not find the Intel® Lakeport Graphics Controller, so I downloaded it from here: http://www.megashare.com/146092
as said before , the laptop just froze up!!!!!
July 21, 2007 10:34 PM PDT


Ibrahim		 Dears, even I am looking for vista wddm driver for my laptop :

Intel Pentium Centrino M 1.86GHz
80GB Hard Drive
2GB RAM
Mobile Intel® 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family
Intel GMA900 Graphics Adapter

I heard that Lakeport Graphics Controller driver works fine. Please let me know the link if you have.

Thanking u guys
July 22, 2007 6:44 PM PDT


kiyakkoray		 any news?
July 22, 2007 11:02 PM PDT


Ibrahim S. Hmd.		 Dear, I tried the same by downloading Intel® Lakeport Graphics Controller from http://www.megashare.com/146092 as said above, the laptop just froze up!!!!! Then I opened it from safe mode then I changed my display driver to previous.

Please help me to get it done aero for my laptop.

Thanks guys
July 23, 2007 6:26 AM PDT


Arron Hirst		 Thanks Josh, Glad to see someone is trying to resolve this issue at least, so thankyou.

Any developments, I'd love to know - info@redspiderstudios.co.uk
July 23, 2007 10:10 AM PDT


Simxx1		 Ted - I don't think it will work as the Lakeport Graphics driver only worked with previous version of Vista when it was in the beta phase.
July 23, 2007 4:45 PM PDT


ted		 yes right Simxx1, and thank you for ur response ... guess me and ibrahim had to learn it the hard way :)
I am now downloading a Microsoft.Windows.Vista.RTM.32Bit.and.64Bit.AIO.DVD.READ.NFO-WinB eta from this link: http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3555953/Microsoft.Windows.Vista......AD.NFO-Win
it was released on November 2006 and almost final.. does anyone knows if I can have Aero working with it on intel i915? and if it could be activated?
thanks in dvance
July 23, 2007 6:50 PM PDT


XAVIER		 XAVIER T PNolan
Metropolitan P&C
VP IT Operations
North East Regions


@ Ted

Technically it should work , but I would try all the registry hacks you can first before you get into driver manipulation.


Just A little update of where I stand right now .

For one reason or another some big cheese (or probably child of one) in our NY office made a big stink about this whole thing. , And that lead me ultimately here.

About A week ago we contacted josh and his team and they assured us they are doing everything possible to look into getting A applicable solution for allowing partial Aero glass support.

This was a conservative estimate IMHO.

Just a note.
My office currently has about 6,000 Notebooks in the North East Region alone [Fully Fielded] all updated to windows VISTA RTM Ent. Ed. , 40% of these Laptop have Ultimate edition or able to run AeroGlass - A decent guess would be at least! 4000 of these laptops all have the software available to them to fluently RUN AeroGlass.

ALL of my subordinates have the TrueTransparency option threw there administrator should they desire it.


We are going to try and empower every willing boddy I can find from RentACoder and here to start A planning stage on getting A working WDDM driver for the latest edition of Windows VISTA Ultimate as well as XP SP2.


Anyone here willing to WORK the ISSUE with me please post here and I will keep your name in mind when we start our R&D stage.


I want to assure intel NO drivers or Proprietary information regarding intel will be released to ANYONE outside of my R&D team without there written/signed approval first.

And all modifications thereof will be documented in detail.


I would also ask that josh continually monitor intel's G.T.I (Granitis) 915GMA Express (900GMA) Driver Group team for any further updates.

Also would like to ask that any 3RD party downloads to any warez sites be removed immediately .



REGARDS

XAVIER T PNolan
July 23, 2007 8:02 PM PDT


Paco		 FIX THE GREEN LINE.

Here is the last Intel 915GM Graphics Driver for Microsoft Windows Vista. v.6.14.10.4704 (30 Jan 2007). Fix the problem.

Driver:
ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp34501-35000/sp34749.exe

Info:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDes.....ob-47264-1

Thanks to HP.
July 24, 2007 1:51 AM PDT


Ibrahim		 Hello,,

My laptop configuration is Intel Pentium Centrino M 1.86GHz
80GB Hard Drive 2GB RAM
Mobile Intel® 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family
Intel GMA900 Graphics Adapter

But aero and aero glass is not running.

But I just bought a compaq notebook for low price and its configuration is AMD Processor 1.86 with 1 gm ram and nvida geoforce 128 mb with vista home basic. Then I upgraded to vista business. The aero and aero glass functions are very fantastics. Intel is to be ashamed of their product which is not supporting aero glass.
July 24, 2007 2:44 AM PDT


Ranjit Singh		 I wonder how Intel is not bothered about its customers? Is this their new trend? Every day I worry when I see my Vaio with 915 graphics chip.I have been a loyal Intel buyer all along. If Intel doesnt do anything about this quickly, my next buy will surely be AMD. No doubt.
July 24, 2007 3:39 AM PDT


John Abraham		 Hey Josh, why dont u say something u have created the blog and they expect some answer from you. So many people are desperate about the driver issue.What's your take.I think u never see what are the discussions that are happening in ur blog.
Thanks,
John
July 24, 2007 10:18 AM PDT


Ibrahim s. Hmd. An Indian in (Abu dhabi)		 Dear Mr. John Abraham. Whatr Mr. Hey Josh can do than helping us atlease by opening a blog to express our comments. But my request is to mr. hey josh to forward this all to a Intel officials. But Intel has cheaten us by giving a big advertisement about their product "Mobile Intel 915GM/GMS, 910GML Express Chipset Family" that this chipset will meet all the requirements of windows vista. But it is a cheat.

I bought my laptop 8 months back only. And I checked in Microsoft website about the requirement of their product vista. They also said that so and so configuration will be more enough to run vista.
July 24, 2007 2:32 PM PDT


Pablitus		 PACO: This you put

ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp34501-35000/sp34749.exe

Info:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDes.....ob-47264-1

Doesn't fix the problem with Aero...i have a NX6110 laptop and install this drivers and this not solve the Aero Issue.
July 24, 2007 9:38 PM PDT


John Abraham		 Hi Paco, u state its the last Intel 915GM Graphics Driver for Microsoft Windows Vista. v.6.14.10.4704 (30 Jan 2007). So does this mean there will be no more driver releases from Intel for this chipset??
July 25, 2007 8:24 AM PDT


Simxx18		 josh thanks for trying and PLEASE dont give up! - a few months ago I foolishly purchased Vista thinking it would work with my intel 915. Vista wasn't exactly cheap and I really don't want to put it to waste!
July 26, 2007 3:10 PM PDT


BoB		 Does the fact that Vista uses XPDM driver means that it doesnt use graphic card to "draw" desktop at all?

Then it would really suck. Vista on devices without WDDM support would not be just OS without some stupid effects.

Thank Intel & Microsoft monopoly.
July 28, 2007 1:04 PM PDT


Louis N.		 Josh was sent by Intel just to give us false hope! Our last hope is Xavier and his coder team... go Xavier! You can do it
July 29, 2007 9:00 PM PDT


JasonL98		 To anybody still following this thread: I, like you have the 915 card and want answers, it is cruel to give a little bit of hope, and then have NO word for months. Even if its bad news, I believe we ALL would still wish to hear it. Obviously Josh is not reading this, and if he is he is just refusing to post. So this is what i propose, force him to post our updates. Post on his other feeds, make him respond to us by filling his other threads with our questions with this thread so he is FORCED to answer us.

To Josh: I am sorry to do this, if you are tryly trying to talk to the Intel folks to get us WDDM drivers, i truly appreciate it. But a show of good faith in our direction would help us to have more faith in you. Just give us updates, PLEASE
July 30, 2007 1:01 AM PDT


XAVIER		 It should also be noted I have extended my abundant resources to intel , I STILL Extend my resources to intel , and will CONTINUE to extend my resources to intel .

I am proud to announce with the help of another partner of MicroSoft who I am unable to disclose yet.
Work has begun on A planning stage to bring WDDM support with A parallel driver brand to users of the 900GMA Express driver line.


@ Louis N.

In retrospect , I don't believe that intel would send just one man to put A black whole of sorts on our hopes to accomplish our goals.

However I have been wrong before in the past .

And thank you for your kind words of support.


@ JasonL98

You know what? I was thinking the exact same thing.




And to everyone else.

Josh has stated here and many places elsewhere on his blog that this non existant WDDM driver is in fact A non ISSUE.
That MicroSoft and it's partners (last I checked intel is a certified partner) have not tried to deceive us in anyway with regards strictly to it's descriptions of features available. I guess it comes down to. Who do you ask ?

However- why the hush hush nature ?

He stated himself that MicroSoft has changed or "flip flopped" wording with regards to vista's "readiness" .



In great humility I propose the following observations...
Now. , I can understand 1 or 2 sources being changed , however looking further into this -systematic changes to not only the microsoft and intel websites where induced but more than a few sources have now been brought to my attention that windows update driver descriptions & summaries itself has been changed itself .

Why ?




We all have to ask the question ,

How will intel be remembered ?




Kind Regards,
XAVIER
July 30, 2007 8:52 AM PDT


Slask		 wow Xavier, u r a life saver man. wen all hope had faded, u came and saved us all with this news. Thanks a million man, thanks a million. I was wondering if u could please tell us the approximate time that would take for ur team to make the drivers. keeping my fingures crossed and waiting for the drivers.
July 30, 2007 10:30 AM PDT


Slask		 @JasonL98
v dont need Josh anymore. all our hopes now rest on Xavier. i hope Xavier'll finish what Josh started.

Hey, Xavier, please do let us know if v can be of any help to u.
July 30, 2007 11:54 AM PDT


Simxx18		 @Xavier
indeed - all hope rests on Xavier and thanks so much in advance for starting to make it! PLEASE dont give up! you have truly saved us all!
July 30, 2007 2:10 PM PDT


Charbel S.		 Wooohooo!!! Finally there's some progress!! ^_^

@Xavier
I LOVE U MAN!! U ROCK!!!!!!
July 30, 2007 3:39 PM PDT


mark		 @Xavier Thanks
@intel - It's the same story with everything, make it obsolete as quickly as possible so you have to buy a new one. Only the timeline is speeded up so that it happens even before you buy the system!

I would like to run my 486 on the software that came with it but as you know MS no longer will sell the software - even without any support. (It would make a fine Kiosk system for web browsing)

Why is it that I can choose to build a model T ford from scratch which is 70 years old. All of the manufacturing specifications are publicly available allowing secondary manufacturers to make them or if one has the time and skill make them their self.

But I couldn't if I wanted to spend all the $$ in the world make X86 and the support chips to fix my old computer nor obtain or create a version of MS/PC DOS that would run on it.
July 30, 2007 3:46 PM PDT


XAVIER		 Mark ,

Shockingly enough , Aero Glass runs on my old Pentium I (233Mhz MMX) laptop within WindowsBlinds . , It runs slow but it runs.

(And yes I understand that old processors where created better and/but with more power consumption in mind)

This sickens me.

My old toshiba dog can do it in XP , but my new cady can't ?
July 31, 2007 5:00 AM PDT


John Abraham		 Hi Xavier, When do u think u'll complete this? Thanx
July 31, 2007 5:13 AM PDT


XAVIER		 Not sure realy , Depends on what kind of cooperation I get from intel , especialy in the legal area.
July 31, 2007 8:43 AM PDT


Slask		 Hey Xavier, v dont want a Microsoft and Intel certified 100% Genuin WDDM Driver or something. Not that fancy stuff. v've had enough of that. v just need a working WDDM driver that would enable the Aero Glass user interface, run Flip 3D, Thumbnail preview and would be WDDM.
July 31, 2007 8:48 AM PDT


yohansy		 thank you xavier thank you
July 31, 2007 9:56 AM PDT


JasonL98		 Yes indeed, thank you very much Xavier :-) Let us know if there is anyway we can help, or any way we can put more pressure on intel for whatever cooperation you need (or any pressure we can take off if they are too hostile)
August 1, 2007 8:54 AM PDT


Chris6565		 Hey guys, I fully support this thread. I'm running Vista Home Premium on 1.7GHZ Processor, 1GB DDR Ram, 240 GB HDD! and Intel 915 GM.....I Want WDDM Drivers! Intel screwed us all over! Does anyone have email addresses for Intel? I'm gonna email them. Thanks
August 2, 2007 1:09 AM PDT


XAVIER		 Just A quick post here...

Thank you all for your kind words! ,

My goal in this matter is simply to get a core workaround out ASAP , putting pressure on A big corporation like them will only awake a sleaping giant. ;)

I hope to have atleast a temporary core workaround out before the school season.

On a lighter note 3 things that might excite you guys..


TrueTransparency has been updated AGAIN!


And on a completely off topic note.

Something I think we can all appreciate on some wavelength or another ,

ST XI now has A release date.

Oh ...

And A BETA performance And Reliability Pack for VISTA is now out in the wild.


Kind Regards,
XAVIER
August 2, 2007 8:43 AM PDT


Slask		 wow Xavier, seems like you would soon make those drivers/crack. Could you please release the Beta version of your drivers as you get to something. We can then help you with our feedbacks. Thanks once again and eagerly waiting for the drivers.
August 2, 2007 3:29 PM PDT


XAVIER		 Slask sorry I haven't been able to reply more quickly to your concern , yes ofcoarse I will send out a public beta once a certain stability point is reached.
August 2, 2007 4:25 PM PDT


fly		 Will you release the download to the beta on this site when it is available? I can't wait to try it out.
August 2, 2007 5:47 PM PDT


MiniMage		 Some folks want glass; others want bells and whistles; I just want the option to change the dadgummed colors. I don't want to be stuck with a black taskbar and grey borders for all Visternity. It's just cruel what MS does (or fails to do) with themes. I tried WindowBlinds, but my context menus were unreadable in several styles (never had that problem in XP).

I've been saving for a new UMPC since January, and I was thinking it was about time to start picking my next one, but last night I decided I would not buy one that didn't have a better supported graphics solution.
August 3, 2007 7:32 AM PDT


Slask		 Superb Xavier, u r a saveier.
August 3, 2007 12:07 PM PDT


Amit		 Thanks Xavier, It will be so great if u do that,waiting for it min by min.
August 3, 2007 12:08 PM PDT


tum		 The thing about Aero is that it's not just about eye candy. WDDM drivers with Aero enabled would enable composition which eliminates the "tearing" effect you get when you move windows around. Thisresults in a user experience that's fitting of an operating system released in 2007. The rendering techniques/algorithms used without Aero are 20 years old and are crusty because at the time there wasn't enough memory to store all the windows in memory.

Like the rest of you, I'm hopefully that XAVIER will come up with a solution soon!
August 3, 2007 12:24 PM PDT


fly		 Any idea of when this will be available?
August 3, 2007 12:27 PM PDT


Amit		 Hey Xavier, our savior, please do not let us down after raising our hopes.
August 3, 2007 2:21 PM PDT


ABHAY		 my mother board is intel D915GAV i m not able to use win vista. which driver usd suggest me thank u.
August 3, 2007 6:30 PM PDT


Amit		 Thanks Xavier, atlease have the aero technology, not so worried about 3d flip.
August 3, 2007 11:07 PM PDT


Adolfo		 Thank you Xavier!
August 4, 2007 12:12 AM PDT


dufang		 Xavier, I love you!
Thanks to make all updates for the driver on this page. So we can get it at the first time.
Love you again!
August 4, 2007 3:17 PM PDT


Ali		 Xavier, Hope we all get the Aero that weve been waiting for!
August 4, 2007 3:38 PM PDT


Simxx18		 Xavier - we're all counting on you!! :D we are all eager to get our hands on this driver! :D thanks again for saving us. roughly how long would it take? (no pressure :D). just curious.
August 4, 2007 4:10 PM PDT


SESSE		 Xavier....you are the BOMB....Thanks a lot. I smile when I see you are working on it.....to help us......thank you from Sweden.
August 5, 2007 1:04 AM PDT


IBB		 Xavier for the president!!!
August 5, 2007 2:19 AM PDT


arno		 Hi Xavier!
lot of french people loves you!
thanks for your work
arno
August 5, 2007 2:57 AM PDT


ruszok		 Xavier what do you do exactly?? Could you write??
Greets from Poland :)
August 5, 2007 9:04 AM PDT


HCPASS		 Yessssss...!!! I'm waiting for my R2H!!
Thank you Xavier.

Steph from France.
August 6, 2007 2:23 AM PDT


Luis Slaova		 I think we should open some other page or something, only in case Josh (and Intel) decide to close that thread, and we won't be able to find later the great work of Xavier, what do you think?
August 6, 2007 3:27 AM PDT


ted		 Xavier, we love you man !! and Luis Slaova I totally agree with your point. It's always good to keep a plan B just in case...
August 6, 2007 5:26 AM PDT


Timon		 Hey you guys,
I have the same graphics card and viste,.. so the same problem.
I have taken the liberty of making a forum for a back-up. Just in case this one will be closed.
My english won't be great, sorry for that. ( I'm from holland )
August 6, 2007 6:02 AM PDT


Slask		 I agree with Luis too.
August 6, 2007 6:16 AM PDT


bartu		 http://www.petitiononline.com/intel915/petition.html
August 6, 2007 10:03 AM PDT


yohansy		 hello Xavier... this also driver servira for the card 910gl?. pardon my English much not thanks thanks Xavier
August 6, 2007 1:38 PM PDT


kompjutr		 I have intel 915 chipset on my laptop and i have same problem, i tried whole variety of things including registry hacks, lakeport drivers, 945 drivers modifications, nothing worked because : WDDM (LDDM) is a must !, i played a while with the winsat aero assessment program i and found out that i'm actually able to run aero with my current drivers (either microsoft's or intel's, it really doesn't matter) with the command line input :
winsat dwm -fbc 10 -time 10 -nodisp -normalw 12 -width 1280 -height 800 -winwidth C(1024) -winheight C(768) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -nolock
the original winsat (formal) assessment uses the following :
winsat dwm -fbc 10 -time 10 -nodisp -normalw 12 -width 1280 -height 1024 -winwidth C(1144) -winheight C(915) -rendertotex 6 -rtdelta 3 -nolock

difference is obvious, BUT, the formal test checks for the LDDM (WDDM) support. I tried to find is there any way to modify/edit parameters for the winsat's formal assessment, and found none. If anyone considers this information useful, and knows a bit more about this please send me a email at nenad {AT} teol dot net ... thanks, and sorry for my english
August 7, 2007 12:07 AM PDT


Timon		 Just for the record,.. clicking my name will redirect you to the forum
August 7, 2007 12:21 AM PDT


Ibrahim S. Hmd.		 Dear guys

I am sorry to say that I do not want to waste my time in this blog. I lost my hope on intel. I am going back to XP and I hate Vista and its display.

Incase, if intel provides the wddm driver. please email to bhasaa@gmail.com

thanking you genglemen.
August 7, 2007 3:30 AM PDT


Luis Slaova		 Thanks Timon.
August 8, 2007 7:26 AM PDT


Psycho46		 Hey everyone! I've got the weirdest problem on my pc! Since december that i'm running with vista ultimate OS and by the time intel didn't had grafic driver for the vista final realese. So vista install it's own driver. Everything fine (no aero) but when running dvds the pc just crash! Then vista got two solutions for the problem,or adjusting the visual effects to best performance or to get the latest driver from intel. The firt one didin't solve but by january intel relese the driver (the one that we all have) and i install it on my pc and it solve the crash problem. But now i've got the weirdest that is when i'm seeing anything on WMP11 when i run to full screen the image goes disturbed with tiny squares! Weirdest? If i touch the brightness it all goes fine! More,i've got a lot programs to see online tv like TVU,TVants or soapcast,since they all use the WMP11 as player i'm getting the same problem with the tiny squares. Only PPmate has an option to adjust brightness and then all goes fine. At first i Think that was the codec,but i've tryed every codec around and it goes the same. If i install the vista driver everything fine but it crash,if a install the latest intel driver i've got the tiny squares issue... So if anyone could help me or got the same problem,thanks in advance!! Pardon my French!! Greattings from Portugal to everyone here!
August 10, 2007 12:07 AM PDT


John Abraham		 Hi Psycho46,

Try formatting and reinstalling vista.After vista install, first install January graphics driver, then install all the other programs it should work fine..
August 10, 2007 9:23 AM PDT


Psycho46		 Hi John Abraham!
What i forgot to say on my last post is that i did format my pc for about 3 Times! But the problem still remains the same! I'm getting really bored with this issue... Intel sucks big time! Maibe i'll go back to xp...! Thanks for the support John!
August 11, 2007 6:40 PM PDT


Tyson Edwards		 Hey Xavier.

If you are legit, let me know and I am very willing to fund your development efforts or whatever else you need to get a working driver out.

~Tyson Edwards
tysonedwards@mac.com
August 12, 2007 1:18 AM PDT


Ibrahhim S. Hmd.		 Hi.... everyone

We do not need to wait for intel or microsoft for aero effects on gma900.

simply download this and install it on your pc. One of your problem in aero effect will be solved.

http://www.visualtasktips.com/

And please give me your comments.
August 12, 2007 10:08 PM PDT


Ibrahim S. Hmd		 Hi... Please try this give your comments. I posted this yesterday, my post has been removed and I don't know why.

http://www.visualtasktips.com/
August 13, 2007 12:41 AM PDT


Ibrahim S. Hmd		 Can someone help me. I am having a aero theme file which is modified to work on 915gm card. But I am advised to go and rename the file as aero.bak. But I am not able to rename file and even I could not give security level permission too.

How to give permission. Plese help me. If it is ok, then I will post the modified aero theme file.
August 13, 2007 7:07 AM PDT


yohansy		 Xavier the new news?
August 13, 2007 7:20 AM PDT


Simxx18		 Xavier - any development on the 915 driver?
August 13, 2007 12:13 PM PDT


SESSE		 We need to know, Xavier, if you are still working in it....
We F....need the driver. To play games, to watch movies...to ... to........ hell. My computer is new and i cant do anything funny with it. ANGRYYYYY.
August 14, 2007 1:56 AM PDT


IBB		 Xavier&Josh Bancroft...hm... I hope that are not in the same package!!
August 14, 2007 3:35 AM PDT


marius		 @ JoshBancroft

Considering that my PC is less than 12 months old I am pretty angry at intel over this driver issue, I purchased what was advertised as a full media center PC so I am amazed to read in this thread that the 915 chipset was designed for low end machines. I bought this PC because it was compleatly intel, motherboard, chipsets everything in the misguided belief that being intel it would be good for at least a couple of years, Shame on you intel it really is a case of buyer beware. At least I was able to overcome this problem by installing an aftermarket graphics card, what about all the poor souls out there that have purchased new laptops containing this chipset? Intel should be ashamed of themselves, just think how many customers you're going to lose over this I would never recommend your products to anyone now, and I guess the same goes for everyone else affected by this.
August 14, 2007 9:01 PM PDT


Ibrahim S. Hmd.		 Mr. marius

I also fully agree with your comments. Intes should stop their stupid advertisement of their products. And I have already started telling people not to buy intel product. And i recently purchased a Compaq AMD BOARD laptop for my friend for a low cost US$500 which runs vista aero so perfect. Intel ashame on you.
August 15, 2007 5:20 AM PDT


Simxx18		 Xavier.. please answer!!! :) - do you know approximately how long it will take before you release even a beta version?
August 15, 2007 6:19 PM PDT


nick		 I trully find it ridiculous that Intel wouldnt develop a wddm driver for 915G.
I sure hope you guys fix that since loyal customers (7years now)to Intel like myself are ready to go out and try some other companies such as nvidia or ATI (who apparently care for their customers and products giving them 100% support on their drivers).
Remember that the 915G adapter has been out there for quite a while, specially on computers with the "vista capable" logo on them, and im sorry to say but this computer is NOT vista capable if i am being limited by this issue. It doesnt matter if the computer runs slow, its just a matter of giving your customers what they deserve, and this isnt it, you say the drivers you developed work on Vista, well they just dont, looking at vista like this isnt a working driver its just a work around for a graphic card you want to neglect since you are not making any profit with it anymore.

Really, think about what you are losing for not giving us some moronic 200 lines of simple code.


Regards.
August 16, 2007 4:13 PM PDT


XAVIER		 I have posted A full update and background on the forum above.

Please see that post for updates.
August 16, 2007 6:05 PM PDT


nick		 Where is the link to that forum xavier?
August 16, 2007 6:56 PM PDT


Pradeep		 H nick,
This is the link to the forum http://wddm.actieforum.com/A-backup-for-the-one-running-at-intel- f1.htm
August 17, 2007 1:22 AM PDT


Pako_nl		 @nick
this is the link: http://wddm.actieforum.com/A-backup-for-the-one-running-at-intel- f1.htm
August 17, 2007 9:35 AM PDT


Slask		 http://wddm.actieforum.com/
August 18, 2007 2:00 PM PDT


Niall Mooney		 Xavier you seem to be quite useless. We need Intel to fix their driver, or Microsoft to fix Windows to enable Aero without that hard coded "winsat dwm" statement which attempts to create a surface which is too large at 1280x1024.
August 18, 2007 7:32 PM PDT


XAVIER		 I'll be sure to note that when im handing out beta invites.
August 19, 2007 10:43 AM PDT


Sesse		 Good Work Xavier.....we trust on you. Keep working and thanks.
August 20, 2007 3:26 AM PDT


Ibrahim S. Hmd.		 Hi guys, it is interesting, I downloaded movie maker 2.0 and installed in vista. It is working on intel® mobile 915gm card.
August 20, 2007 10:41 AM PDT


Alex		 Xavier, good luck with the project, ill be watching with interest!

Alex- foolish 915 chipset owner
August 20, 2007 1:08 PM PDT


XAVIER		 Alex , No one here is foolish.

I would like to think something good will come from all of this.
And in the end the release will make our chipset even better than the 950GM*.
August 21, 2007 2:18 AM PDT


Ibrahim S. Hmd.		 Mr. Xavier, is it possible? ours' will more better than their 950.
August 21, 2007 2:39 PM PDT


Sesse		 Ohhh my god, Xavier. So exciting. I am happy today only because you make beleive in you with your word......"and..at the end..." I hope it has an end. My computer is so slow about motions, games...etc...NOthing works properly....GRRRRRRRRR
August 21, 2007 6:00 PM PDT


XAVIER		 Yes with proper updates and a larger user base I could possibly invision a user based driver release being better than the current 950.

Now if intel was smart they would release the source and try to compete.
August 21, 2007 8:22 PM PDT


Kannan		 Hi Xavier,
Thanks a lot. I am egarly waiting for 915 driver for Vista.
August 22, 2007 6:05 AM PDT


Ashwani		 pls tell me how to register complaints for my intel 945GCCR motherboard
August 22, 2007 6:08 AM PDT


Ashwani		 any one help me for to register my complaints for intel motherboard 945 GCCR wich is underwarranty, how to register this problem on online.
August 22, 2007 6:21 AM PDT


yohansy		 Hi Xavier,
driver that you go to also haser ba to serve for cards 910gl
August 23, 2007 10:51 AM PDT


nick		 Xavier, is there an estimate on the date release at least of a beta driver?
August 24, 2007 7:10 AM PDT


IBB		 Yes. the release date is 01.09.2008.
http://wddm.actieforum.com/
August 24, 2007 8:34 AM PDT


XtrmShadow		 Hello guys.
ive been investigating this problem with my graphic card and i got to a conclusion : I believe intel of some things,and in the same time i believe they cheat people.
Why this decision?
I agree with intel because :Ive been trying to do things with my gfx (same as you guys got 915GM)and ive got to the conclusion that it supports aero yeah,BUT not fully,my computer worked with it and it worked but it started to fail on things,like windows gets stuck and explorer.exe starts to work buggy,computer restarts and much more bugs,like window gets stuck.
So..Yes its true,I915GM is Windows Vista compatible,but Aero....maybe 60 percent or less.

I dont agree with intel in the part because they tell people to write here so they dont get their forum full with posts with "WHY NO VISTA ON INTEL 915?????",but in same time i understand them,its hard to manage a big mark like intel.

Want to proove yourself?
You just need Windows XP,Vista transformation pack 7 and (the most important that will proove)FastAero build 0.7.

FastAero makes windows look like Aero,and even so,it does less things that Windows Vista Aero theme would do ...so imagine with the original aero?

In Conclusion : Maybe intel will get a beta driver yeah,but dont expect your laptop to work "perfect" , it will fail sometimes.

Im using Transformation Pack and Window Blinds 5.5 and i got a great window ,even better than original Vista Aero(for me ofcourse).
If u need some help u can find me at Scifi_alex@hotmail.com
August 24, 2007 3:23 PM PDT


Habib		 Wow! Thank you! eally looking forward to this one.
August 24, 2007 5:30 PM PDT


Charbel S.		 hehe .. n_n dumb question i know .. but does 01.09.2008 mean the 9th of January or the 1st of September ? :)
August 25, 2007 12:13 AM PDT


funny		 I hope it's the 9th of January. Also have to wait a long time...
August 25, 2007 1:13 AM PDT


James Campell		 Hi,

I've been reading this for a while now and thank Xavier for the work he has commited to the development of a WDDM driver for this chipset. But it really isn't his responsibility, blame lays with Intel here. I just want to say to Josh Bancroft if he is reading that you really have showed bad faith here. You have not even made a post in 3 months with the status of what is going on. I can understand if you have bad news and just say the driver won't happen. But to not even give people the decency of an update is really quite low. Josh you started this forum post in order to explain what is happening, yet you won't! Is Intel gagging you? Do the right thing and say what's going on even if it's not good news for us.

Readers don't give up either, keep posting on Intel message boards, sign petitions and make this situation made to as many people online as you can do. Visit Josh's blog post there and keep e-mailing him.

James
August 25, 2007 2:21 AM PDT


XtrmShadow		 nope , its 1st of august 2008,1 year from now ahead.
August 25, 2007 5:34 AM PDT


Gene Velasquez		 woah, Sep 1, 2008 is like way way to go... who knows the service pack 1 for vista will bypass winsat dwm thingy and let intel 910/915 boards support aero glass like there was on beta release of vista.... just a wishful thinking. But I'm really hoping they can expedite the development of this wddm driver for us.
August 25, 2007 5:02 PM PDT


Niall Mooney		 I have played with the "winsat dwm" command. I have edited the formal xml file to make it appear that all tests are passed with a valid result, and that the numbers are higher than 2.0 or 3.0 but it doesn't seem to make a difference.

Windows seems to be hard coded to frustrate its User. Intel probably have the technical access to support their products... but they don't look like using it.

Intel appear to have released a new GMA Vista driver which adds support for the programmable units on the chip but it is limited to the GMA 3000 and the 900 series (minus the 915).

Charbel, dates are only mm.dd.yy in the USA, so it's far from certain which way around it ought to be.
August 26, 2007 12:47 AM PDT


IBB		 1st of September 2008!
August 26, 2007 11:50 AM PDT


Sesse		 1st of august 2008 ?????!!!! My god...so long time....But ok I can wait...and support Xavier.

I dont care if my computer doesnt works with aero 3D effects..I only want a driver in order to increase the performance of my Packard Bell wich is now 1 of 5..because of Grafics and hardware acceleration. So my new 1300 US$ computer is s***....Slow etc........

Ok ok everybody has the same problem...I would like to fix it by myself........But....Thats not the case.... Damm it.
August 29, 2007 6:51 PM PDT


Matthew		 What is the deal with everybodies indignation. The press has been shouting from the roof tops for two years before Vista's release that the good stuff was going to require the latest and greatest hardware and that anyone wanting to really run it would need to a) buy a new computer or b) do some major component upgrading. If you weren't paying attention, you have no one to blame but yourself.
August 30, 2007 4:33 AM PDT


Andy R		 "I feel cheated and I am very irrated by the very short support span that intels products have. I personally have now changed to AMD, and I would recommend people do the same. If you were to look at dell's site now you would see that AMD is starting to replace the Intel market."

Actually, AMD are losing market share to Intel right now, due to the amazing design and success of the Core series of processors all across the board. Dell started selling more AMD machines because they wanted as many people satisfied as possible. AMDs are mostly on the low-end systems, Intel mostly on the Mid-High. AMD are still faffing with AM2 and Quad-Core, to no avail. Intel already are at quad core, living quad core, expanding quad core. AMD's performance is now a good 25% below Intel's. They'd better catch up fast, or they'll have the new 45nm Intels to deal with on top! AMD support is terrible anyway. I once had an Athlon, which fell over after about 2 years, so i claimed support on it. AMD just shrugged and the manufacturer did the same. I still have Intel CPUs running from 1996 for gods sake. They are just BETTER products.

And, by the way, good news guys. I'm not sure on this, but there is a remote possibility we're getting a new Intel GMA900 driver with the Vista SP1 pack in early 2008! There is hope yet. Reports say it won't support Aero, but possibly Vista Standard themes.

We can only hope. Either way i'm not fussed. Aero is nice, but not THAT important. Vista runs great under the January 2007 GMA900 drivers, 3D performance is fine, so i don't care much.
August 30, 2007 3:07 PM PDT


Niall		 http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/intel915g/sb/CS-011683.htm

It admits there was a so-called BIOS Upgrade incident which barred the GMA from using 224MB. I think the GMA is more flexible than Intel has admitted. I suspect the 900 and the 950 are quite compatible and separated only by clock speeds and firmware revisions.

Intel, give me my 96MB back!

Remember how it says on the other page that the GMA 900 has a smaller memory table than the thought-to-be-identical 950? Well, perhaps it would be larger if it was not limited for marketting reasons. Infact, at the time of writing, not all documentation and marketting has been altered to reflect this in-production stage act of sabotage.
September 6, 2007 1:23 AM PDT


XAVIER		 Now that ATI's 2D driver framework are going to become open source and there 3D driver framework soon to follow I would hope intel would show some love and open the source for the 900GM* product line!
September 6, 2007 4:48 AM PDT


Carmelo		 Xavier, you are right to hope in an open source driver but i'm investigating in all the internet sites...It seems that intel doesn't care about WDDM for GM915.
Other tricks like :
- Lakeport driver instead of original GM915 (pc freeze).
- GM950 driver instead of original GM915 (installation error).
- Force the Windows Vista Performance Ratings (WVPR)(some chinese people has created an utility to modifiy this values , see italian page at http://www.italiasw.com/windows-vista-performance-rating-sof.....e-il-wvpr/).
doesn't works.
I think the only hope is your work about the creation/customization of the intel GM915 WDDM driver.

We are waiting a your feedback about the chances we have about it.
Thanks
Carmelo
September 8, 2007 1:01 PM PDT


Niall		 I recognise the tallness of this tale. But I am quite sure that when using WindowBlinds by Stardock Corporation and with fiddled winsat results the DWM service did work. But there were lots of graphical errors and it didn't work for terribly long.

Aside from the microsoft graphics issue, the lack of OpenGL support is more serious. Then there is the Vista long good-bye issue which is now said to be caused by the multimedia-scheduler in Vista. The effect is that one cannot use Vista for even an 8 hour period for any sort of serious purpose (and games are much slower under Vista than XP).
September 9, 2007 1:53 AM PDT


XAVER		 Carmelo , just for kicks I ran that app threw my sandbox machine here , running vista ultimate.

It seems the only thing it changes are esthetics and not the settings that are actually tied to increase or even decrease(why would anyone want to do that i have no idea) score values. :)


Be that as it may a core re integration of the driver is the only thing that is going to aplicate here. :(





NAIL:

At this point this isn't a major commitment from ATI since there's nothing to really hold them to it, and it's only releasing specs for helping the OSS community make drivers - no current driver code is included. The schedule doesn't even call for them to release any of the 3D hardware specs until after they have released the 2D hardware specs, which will take some time. And there's a definite risk in NV seeing the 3D hardware specs if they haven't already, with S3/Intel not minding either (they can't directly steal things, but better information on things like the Ringbus could allow them to implement their own knockoff).

But in short, I'll believe it when I see it. But I don't have to like it.

That's why I still think this is a publicity stunt, they're doing this for boosting their reputation by announcing it, then slowly backing away as the time comes to implement the critical 3D features that would require their biggest spec secrets.

But like I said I don't have to like it.

And I would also like to think every little "bit" helps. :)



Some openGL extensions can actually be emulated on 900/950 GMA cards. I'm worried more about PixelShadder2+~3 or mainly DirectX10+ than anything else.





Just a quick update , ...


I'd like everyone to do three things here in the upcoming days , please post your computing skills as well as a brief blurb about your system specs.

Also , anyone with A dell laptop who hasn't upgraded there driver firmware post 2007 year date please let me know.


I'd also like to invite people to post submissions for direct links to alternative transparency applications.


Me and a couple of the developers at RAC as well as my admin have created a page where people can contribute alternatives and donate if they feel the need. ~> http://sourceforge.net/projects/intel915wddm/
Drop a dime should you feel the urge.

Finally I would like to welcome Dan Cagara to the team that is working on this project , his past knowledge of adding features to Intel drivers will help a little.


Thats all for now. ! :)
September 9, 2007 9:46 PM PDT

Josh Bancroft (Intel)
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 @XAVER - well done. Let me know if there's anything we can do to support this project.
September 10, 2007 2:07 AM PDT


XAVIER		 @Jb , Good to see your still reading (And among the living in this thread ;) ! :D

Will do.
September 11, 2007 7:26 AM PDT


Niall		 http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/gma900/gma900.pdf

http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/gma950/gma950.pdf

There are some important things to note:

The GMA 950 is marketted as having less memory than the GMA 900. Intel alleges their GMA 950 chip supports up to 192MB, whereas the GMA 900 supports 224MB in the original product brief.

The GMA 950 supports Direct X Vertex Shader 3.0 through Software, presumably the driver contains sabotage code to prevent GMA 900 owners using this.

Apparently (probably an error in marketting information) the GMA 950 doesn't support as high a resolution as the GMA 900.

If anybody here hasn't looked at Beryl on Linux yet then I suggest doing that. Try Fedora 7 or Ubuntu Linux distributions because they are easy to install and use. Intel made the mistake of outsourcing their Linux 3D drivers so they cannot sabotage their products retroactively.
September 11, 2007 7:31 AM PDT


Niall		 Isn't it a bit foolish to be trying to figure out how to make WDM drivers? We need the agreement of Microsoft for legal reasons as well as practial.

We need to see the specification of "WDM" in the form of an API to implement, then it would be easy to just add a wrapper between the drivers we have ("XPM") and Vista. But! We would need a clear explaination from Microsoft of how Vista works.

Intertwined with this fact is the fact that WDM drivers are not necessary for Aero for any practical reason. It is a policy decision of Microsoft. Microsoft should be petitioned to release a fix allowing Aero to operate on XPM drivers.
September 12, 2007 2:20 PM PDT


XAVIER		 [Niall] ahem , sorry about the last post It was a bit rushed.

..Unfortunately that won't happen anytime soon seeing it will also take not just the cooperation of intel but microsoft as well. However it is nice to dream at this point.

What I would like to see on the part of intel is a type of "boot camp" or readiness test that it can give developers the chance to test there driver skills and in reward for such high marks they would be given access to even higher tests that are along the lines of how there current code works and so on and so forth , as the test grow harder the knowledge base would grow for said dev.

So the better you get at there internal testing process , the more you would have an understanding as to how Intel's code works integrated with WDDM compatibility.

Call it some kind of "Automated SAT" on drivers with a prize to come within the next test.

Giving end users , BETA testers , and developers a better understanding is what it's all about. :)


They could use there own LP control to weed out big companies trying to weasel in and help amateur users gain a clearer understanding of what to expect when and if they should ever release API's or full source code in the future.

I could also see how that would be cost effective seeing how they could delegate small parts of there already in place KB as well as any tests they give potential internal developers.


Baby steps. It would be better than nothing.



But I have gone off topic...

I don't believe it is foolish to try , especially when you look at the BIG picture and have 1000's of End-users in the market who have paid so costly a price. (WDDM delegates on many scales not just aero glass)
September 13, 2007 12:39 AM PDT


Derek		 Intel sucks!
September 13, 2007 12:03 PM PDT


XAVER		 ahem! , Perhaps starting a new thread (BLOG POST) with all of our intentions would be prudent at this point.

What do you guys think ? :D
September 13, 2007 1:08 PM PDT

Josh Bancroft (Intel)
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 @XAVIER - how about using the ISN Knowledge Base wiki:

http://softwarecommunity.intel.com/wiki/

You could create a project page there, and use it to keep people updated. That's what the wiki is for! :-)
September 13, 2007 1:59 PM PDT


XAVER		 Naa we need an outlet of somekind , stating that this is who we are , this is why where doing what where doing , and this is how. With this blogs comments growing into the hundreds I don't see how a mere wiki can combat that.

Although I could be wrong.
September 13, 2007 2:14 PM PDT

Josh Bancroft (Intel)
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 @XAVIER - how about code.google.com?
September 13, 2007 2:35 PM PDT


XAVER		 @Josh with all due respect you started this whole discussion , I think if your trying to become more transparent from it your blog should be the one to do it.

A simple new blog post stating there are members of the community that have taken on the task of planning and funding the release of circumventing the 915/910 Chipset hardware limitations in order to run WDDM required apps And have setup a forum to discuss its progress above would be reasonable.
Wouldn't you agree ?

NESPA!?
September 13, 2007 2:45 PM PDT

Josh Bancroft (Intel)
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 @XAVIER I guess what I'm saying is, you guys don't need me for this. :-) We already have a Graphics forum. There's a wiki on ISN where you can (and should!) create some pages about your efforts.

I would just be an unneccesary middleman, getting in the way. :-)
September 13, 2007 3:12 PM PDT


XAVER		 @Josh Bancroft

Well I don't see you as unnecessary at all ;o)

But after 100'S OF posts on this subject don't you think its time we brought the comment box to a close and pointed people to A "holy" ground ?

True Transparency has seem to done it for many.

Others want a more bioshock aproach. :P

So I will let you be the judge.
September 15, 2007 8:37 PM PDT


XAVIER		 @Jb I take it by your silence you will be away from this project for the weekend.

@Tyson : Please let me know if you have received my communications as I have not heard back from you on the WDDM Actie forum.

@Everyone else : Sit tight I may have word for you all sooner than I had originally thought.
September 16, 2007 6:22 AM PDT


Sesse		 SOONER ??? Yesssssssss. Exciting. You are the. . . . . Master! He he.
September 20, 2007 10:05 PM PDT


nick		 <p>Well, its all over folks, after a couple of days of research i found that intel has NO AND ABSOLUTELY NO TIME to spend in out 915g chipsets.</p>
<p>Tha hell with Intel and Microsoft, i switched to linux/beryl, looks amazing and you can also use all of ure favorite windows apps using "cross over office ", so there, screw you Intel, i dont need your cheap wddm crap driver, we are writting our own, and never buying [[<em>Edited for language - let's behave ourselves here, folks. I'll leave this, because we don't censor your opinions. But follow the "living room rule". -- Josh</em>]]</p>
September 21, 2007 3:07 AM PDT


XAVIER		 Yeah guys watch your mouths plz! , young children visit this forum daily believe it or not. (I should know im one of them ;) )
September 21, 2007 12:14 PM PDT


mido		 go ahead xavier
September 21, 2007 1:20 PM PDT


sesse		 Yeah...Go ahead...
September 21, 2007 5:50 PM PDT


batboy		 Go ahead xavier... grettings from Brazil.
September 29, 2007 8:23 AM PDT


mido		 hi guys I found this in another forum
can any one use this method?(IAM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY BUGS THAT WILL APPER)
I’ve found a way to enable Aero Glass on my GMA900 Notebook.
The idea is to modify GMA950’s driver and install in my GMA900 Notebook. By this way, you can cheat in Vista, and enable Aero Glass. But something I must to say is that I can’t guarantee on the stability.

1. find out the hardware ID of your GMA900 in WINXP. (you can view this information in dxdiag)
2. download a latest Vista driver for GMA950 (i945GM chipset) from anywhere you want. (it’s a good choice to download form intel’s website. down the .zip one, not the .exe)
3. uncompress the driver.
4. edit a file \Graphics\igdlh.inf, find out the section [Intel.Mfg], and find the hardware ID of 945GM, replace the ID to your GMA900’s.
find this one:
%iCLGD0% = i945GM0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27A2
change to
%iCLGD0% = i945GM0, PCI\YOUR_GMA900_HARDWRAE_ID
5. save this file, and install this modified driver, reboot your system.
6. and then…enjoy the Aero Glass… Y^_^Y.
September 30, 2007 4:57 AM PDT


Gordon		 My friends from AMD Development Center Dresden in Germany are laughing about this ! :)
This is the best PR gag since Pentuim bug.
Intel: enjoy it - and wait till AMD is ready with ATI with their one chip solution for notebooks :)

@XAVIER: go on man !

Best regards
Gordon from Germany
October 4, 2007 6:59 AM PDT


Macke		 i cant find the GMA950 (i945GM chipset)driver, ca u give me the link? iad how do i find my hardware ID for my GMA900?
its not in dxdiag... pleace help me
October 5, 2007 8:02 AM PDT


jake		 modyfing the 945gm driver to work with the 915 dosent work, this is for 3 resons;
vista installs it but does not allow it to load on startup
it has different functions and calls than the 915 and would fail anyway
the wddm driver on the 945 is written for a hardware scehuler wich the 915 dosent have.

We need to wait for Xavier to write the driver im afraid. i tried this hack but it dosent work (and i didnt expect it to either)
October 6, 2007 4:02 AM PDT


SessE		 Yeah......we wait....We need to wait for Xavier
October 7, 2007 7:45 PM PDT


Oswaldo GB		 Hi Xavier..

Will you launch the wddm driver or I will must buy a new notebook?

Sincerily, your costumer:
Oswaldo GB - Brazil
October 8, 2007 1:03 PM PDT


AleSoft		 HI to all...
I attend the driver, is terrible ... i won't change the pc!!!
:-( vista driver Please!!!!!! :-))

Thanks to all!
October 10, 2007 8:36 AM PDT


A ST		 Computers that are only about a year old are now considered to be outdated. That's not fair.
October 10, 2007 11:48 AM PDT


jakeannyoed		 This sucks! I want my driver and support from intel. When i purchased my laptop i expect to recieve support and updates. Not a ceist and desist blog :(

Intel, give me my driver or face my solicitor. Not only can i not run certain features in windows that i paid 200 pound for but also cannot program on my machine that cant support DWM!!!
October 10, 2007 11:49 AM PDT


jakeannyoed		 there is more than a million words posted on this blog. Dont u see that this is a cry for help? REALEASE THE DRIVER PLEEZZ
October 10, 2007 11:35 PM PDT


Will		 Can't u see we need this you idiots intel!

Just release a driver and we will all be happy even if it is a BETA no one cares just a driver.

I spent £55 upgrading RAM and £123 for hard drive!!!!

I have already lost faith in u and the next laptop I buy will have non Intel Graphics in it.
October 10, 2007 11:37 PM PDT


Will		 AMD is beating you now Intel, losing customers....One....by....one and getting angry emails saying...oh i don't know maybe...WE WANT OUR DRIVER THAT WE SHOULD LEGALY HAVE!
October 12, 2007 12:09 PM PDT


yohansy		 XAVIEEEEER SPEAKER!!!!!!!!
October 13, 2007 7:37 AM PDT


Dennis		 Dear All:
Can you give the GMA900 WDDM bete driver for me? and
How to search in windows Vista bete CD inside GMA900 WDDM driver?
October 14, 2007 1:56 AM PDT


J.P.		 Not everyone wants the WDDM version. I would be happen with an updated XDDM version.
October 15, 2007 2:04 PM PDT


funny		 I want to know why Josh didn't say a word after he saw all this page, I'm sure he has been here a lot of times.
October 16, 2007 11:57 AM PDT


Gianni		 Dear Mr Josh, can you please tell us if anythyng is moving in INTEL about GMA900 WDDM driver or not? Thank you very much from Italy.
October 16, 2007 2:18 PM PDT


Umut		 i need help for 128 MB INTEL GMA 900 driver search.. Because i buy the card but i forget buy this card =) Please help me .. i'm crazy for it ..
October 16, 2007 10:16 PM PDT


viko		 well its been almost a year and nothing so far..
it seems we are screwed
you have to love monopoly...
land of the free.. right..
October 19, 2007 7:41 AM PDT


ARASH		 I WANT JUST AERO GLASS
October 19, 2007 7:43 AM PDT


ARASHIA		 dont buy vista
there is no aero for most peaple who use 915 Graphics 91.
October 19, 2007 10:02 AM PDT


IBB		 TrueTrasparency

http://www.nontipago.it/Sistema/Barra/TrueTrasparency.htm
October 19, 2007 11:22 PM PDT


Phil		 STILL no driver from Intel for this graphics chip THEY produced then. I always heard good things about Intel, Was it all bullsh*t? I'm buying a desktop PC in the next couple of months, May even build it myself and I can tell you one thing, IT WILL HAVE NO INTEL PARTS IN IT IF I CAN AVOID IT!!! What a total let down of the people that trusted and respected Intel.
October 22, 2007 2:52 PM PDT


deny		 <p>http://www.wintricks.it/vista/trick11.html ....try this...</p>
October 22, 2007 3:06 PM PDT


funny		 hi,deny!
Well,the linked page is not in english, it's difficult to understand, but i'm curious what it is going on there. perhaps it's useful.
Thanks to translate it.
October 23, 2007 8:40 PM PDT


Jeremy		 I think This is flat out crazy I bought a new desktop in 2006 when vista was not quite out on the market A Hp pavillion A 1030n and I upgraded to window's vista home premium ohh what a frackken mistake To find out that I had to go out and buy more mem and cant even use aero wtf I mean come on Do you Expect Microsoft to pick up intel's slack or low jak or what? I mean RELEASE WDDM Already PPL.. OR Do I need to bring Apple-MAc back??????
October 24, 2007 3:03 AM PDT


deny		 hi....it sais that we can activate aero on every pc..even if the graphic is not supported.....i tried but the gpedit.msc doesen't work on my copy of vista..maybe is damnaged...if u want to try you have to download the file in the linked page...unpack it..and put it in the directory specificated in the same page...the open gpedit and do digit some command...if someone wants to try..hope ot can be helpful...:D
October 24, 2007 7:45 AM PDT


A ST		 The sad thing is that softwares like DVD maker or windows movie maker won't work without this driver. Intel and Microsoft have come together to screw customers.
October 24, 2007 9:38 AM PDT


Slask		 Has anyone tried the trick mentioned by deny? did it work? Here is the link for the translated version of the web page:
http://maxupload.com/img/25F8CCCB.jpg
October 24, 2007 10:58 AM PDT


Oswaldo GB		 I speak english and italian..
And I could`t make it works...

Maybe another trick for vista beta version..
:'(
October 24, 2007 11:39 AM PDT


A ST		 I think this is the trick that's used to activate aero glass on computers that have vista home basic. It probably won't work for us because of the hardware limitations.
October 25, 2007 1:47 AM PDT


pragma		 people.. let's face it... there will be no wddm driver for i915 graphics. The limitation mentioned by intel might be false, but as all we can see, if 'something' could force aero in beta releases, now it is not working. No registry hack, no lakeport drivers, no nothing ... I think Xavier can't do much, i like his enthusiasm but this is far beyond him...
i'm going to buy a new computer, and thats what its all about microsoft&intel forcing us to BUY new products... capitalism, deal with it...
October 25, 2007 5:57 PM PDT


Oswaldo GB		 Ok..But I think that so soon, anyone will hack windows to force aero ( something like winsat )...
So..I'll be waiting for it!Do you know a good hacker that can help us!?

It all, at my point of view, is unfair :@
October 25, 2007 5:59 PM PDT


Oswaldo GB		 U N F A I R
October 25, 2007 11:24 PM PDT


SESSE		 I still believe in Xavier. Go for it !!!

Have a nice day
October 26, 2007 3:19 AM PDT


Ali Shairshah		 well i have a 915 chipset graphics card and im really upset that the fact that my graphics card cant perform enough to have areo on my computer even though its a 126mb graphics card. one other thing is that i recently downloaded a software called netmeter ( it sees how much youve donwloaded and uploaded) the thing with that software is that it has trancparency at its fineist level but then im not sure why Microsoft is that 915 intel graphics cards cant do trancparency when ive got a software thats got it..?
October 26, 2007 6:46 AM PDT


pragma		 we all know that i915 actually can perform aero tasks... how - simple, i played games that are far more complex than simple aero, second thing is that you CAN perform aero with winsat dwm --glassw option (in prompt) winsat aurora etc., third aero was available during beta phase, fourth I did 3d rendering with this graphic card that is also far more complex than aero... so, it's simple - intel doesn't want to release wddm driver ... that's all folks ... if someone wants to make driver i salute him/her, but he/she needs to know that it's not a simple task because intel didn't provided source code, microsoft doesn't want to give clear instructions... it's smelly around here... off i go...
October 28, 2007 8:03 AM PDT


Okan		 hi! i have a intel 915 chipset graphics card and i g-found how we can have aero it's so simple
October 29, 2007 1:11 AM PDT


Cruiser		 Hey Okan, please tell us what version of vista you have, is it still beta?
if not, then tell us how you do that
October 29, 2007 2:44 AM PDT


Cruiser		 Hey guys, I want to try to use the driver used by vista beta in 6.0.6000 ultimate, but I don't have the beta version of vista. Just may be it will work on intel 915 chipset, on driver comes with beta vista, hack the inf files first to use 945 rather then 915. After that then force it to aero by registry hack. Is it will work? Or may be somebody here has already tried that?
October 29, 2007 3:10 AM PDT


Cruiser		 I have found this:
Movie Maker 2.6 Update (only if you receive the error message: "Windows Movie Maker cannot start because your video card does not support the required level of hardware acceleration or hardware acceleration is not available."

at http://bhandler.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!70F64BC910C9F7F3!1844.entry
So why the 915 driver can't have the update for aero?
October 29, 2007 7:15 AM PDT


A ST		 I installed this, but I still get the error:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=d6b.....=en&tm
October 29, 2007 7:26 AM PDT


A ST		 nvm, I didn't see the icon for movie maker 2.6. It looks just like the XP movie maker; oh well.
btw, is there another one for dvd maker?
Thanks a lot.
October 29, 2007 9:29 AM PDT


Okan		 Cruiser, i have vista ultimate lite edition, an update is available for intel 915 http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http:/.....me=Windows* XP Professionel&lang=fra
October 31, 2007 7:41 AM PDT


pragma		 Okan... it's not going to work.. tested it..
October 31, 2007 11:15 AM PDT


MNM		 Okan, I tested it, nothing happens.
October 31, 2007 3:51 PM PDT


someone		 there is 2 reason why they drop any support for 915
1) money ... like directx10 in vista vs 9.0c in xp ... you HAVE to buy ... spent money ...
2) on any laptop with pentium-m at 400MHz fsb and 915gm you could easly overclock procesor +33% (ike me - PM 1.6 -> 2.13 and using 3 years without hand or more heat ...) so for 300$ i get laptop with performance high-end (high end 3 years ago:P ) what was cost over 800$ ......

It is sad that noone is optimizing programs , doing them better or faster ...
I remember commodore C64 times ...
November 1, 2007 1:57 AM PDT


Cruiser		 Okan, I use vista ultimate lite edition to (version 6.0.6000, 1 cd installer) and intel915 chipset, but i have tried that driver days ago, it still can't got aero.

I've tried many aero alternatives applications which Xavier give the alternative application to simulate the aero, but none are stable. I removed them.

I still waiting for Xavier to finish the wddm. But I don't know, may be intel was right, there is a hardware limitation for a NEW aero in 915, but why microsoft no to try to keep the OLD aero like in vista beta version just for all chipsets like 915, so we have the option to choose an can force using the old vista driver, so we still can have aero. You know what I mean.

Go for it Xavier, and break the intel excuse..... and make everybody happy. (BUT INTEL)
November 1, 2007 4:37 AM PDT


mido		 Try windows blinds 6 & top desk
November 2, 2007 3:10 AM PDT


Cruiser		 No, thanks Mido. I was used xp using Vista Transformation Pack 7.0 from WindowsX, enhanced by windows blind 5.5, it's really amazing aero look, and using vistart make the start menu just like vista has, there's search box and customize. But no blur effect on transparancy. I used VTP from ver 6 to 7 in 1 from 2006. And yes WB 6.0 can make the blur effect. And now I'm in vista without aero. But I have to use the new OS to upgrade my knowledge. Aero..... hopefully some time i'll get that. Just with one new addition, Shock Aero to use the flip 3D just for fun, it's freeware.
November 2, 2007 5:46 PM PDT


ShinyFalcon		 If you want the flip 3D, look for Tokyo Downstair's WinFlip. It emulates Vista's Flip 3D pretty well, but I don't know if it will work in Vista Basic/etc.
November 3, 2007 6:00 AM PDT

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November 4, 2007 8:57 PM PST


Cruiser		 Downstair's WinFlip has great effect, little memory used and more faster then Shock Aero. Now I'm using it. Thanks ShinyFalcon.

Any news for new intel915 WDDM? I still waiting for any the good news.
November 5, 2007 3:44 AM PST


blink		 please make wddm driver for 915!! intel PLEASE OR I GO IN JUSTICE
November 6, 2007 9:51 AM PST


pragma		 well... we can do it without wddm :]
November 8, 2007 12:40 AM PST


Cruiser		 Pragma, we can do what? We are here talking about intel915 WDDM. So we can use "Real" Vista AERO, and other feature/app which depend on it.
Do you mean you can hack or cheat vista so it will see the driver is WDDM, not the XPDM? If you really did, your explanation is very helpfull in this thread.
The point is, how we can have all of the Vista feature without limited by this intel915 chipset.
We are all here stuck with this. While every one else, discussing about using this aero feature on their app, or using apps which depend on it, but we can't do them all because limited by this d... intel chipset.
November 9, 2007 5:22 AM PST


nobb1x		 its a shame a big company like intel cannot develop drivers for products still listed in the its site as NOT ARCHIVED PRODUCTS!!!
November 9, 2007 6:46 AM PST


pragma		 and i have a right to do that... intel will get zero money from me, and i'll have a brand new computer :]
November 9, 2007 6:47 AM PST


pragma		 try to stop me... big corporation :P
November 9, 2007 8:48 PM PST


atul		 i have a wddm driver for gma 900
November 10, 2007 5:58 PM PST


charlie		 atul, u mind sharing what u have?
November 11, 2007 8:17 PM PST


Cruiser		 NOW, a new issue of WDDM for GMA 900 from atul?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't believe this!!!!
November 12, 2007 11:12 AM PST


bujassim		 hii atul where is the driver??!!
November 12, 2007 12:04 PM PST


IBB		 atul dont be a child, you dont have nothing...its not funny!
November 12, 2007 6:22 PM PST


kileers		 come on someone get up and get these people to issue WDDM for 915
November 13, 2007 5:00 AM PST


pragma		 Stupid.
November 14, 2007 3:29 AM PST


IBB		 XAVIER...say something...are U steel work on this and how go you work...problems???
November 14, 2007 8:08 PM PST


lesbian		 need you to do something XAVIER
November 14, 2007 8:52 PM PST


Cruiser		 I think, we'll never have the wddm for 915, XAVIER need the source code from intel at least two driver source code, one is xpdm 915 and the other one is wddm for other chipset. And intel won't give him.
What I need is to throw my notebook and get another one with NO intel inside and F... intel. I think that's the best thing all we can do.

That's what i think. Do you guys?
November 15, 2007 1:09 AM PST


IBB		 I will wait Xavier....if Xavier say ´I will make driver for you˝ then i will be happy...if say ˝Sorry dude i try but is hard for some reasons....˝ then i will take
my notebook in my hand and broke in 100000000 peases, and i will not buy new one bicouse i dont have a money...but Intel never more!
November 15, 2007 5:19 AM PST


A ST		 writing a driver without any kind of documentation by someone who's never written a driver of this type is almost impossible. I am a computer scientist and mostly deal with the software aspect of computers, but for several of my undergraduate classes, I’ve studied Intel and AMD’s earlier processor designs and have coded MIPS architecture in Verilog. From what I remember, coding all the pipelining and cache stuff in Verilog was a major pain in the ass; even though, that technology is fairly old and there are many books written on the subject and a teacher had gone over all the basics. If you are a believer and don’t want to give up that’s fine, but realistically speaking…Good Luck!

If Aero Glass has truly run on XPDM (on beta releases), probably the best way to get the aero glass to work is to mess around with the Registry or wait till someone finds a way to hack it like they did with the earlier versions of Vista. Although, keep in mind that aero glass is not something to break your computer for. This attitude is exactly what encourages Intel, Microsoft and…to stop supporting their old products, so people would have to buy their newer products.
November 15, 2007 7:39 PM PST


ShinyFalcon		 I noticed that this computer:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131004

Uses the GMA900 graphics card, and it runs Vista Premium. Do you think that the drivers for the Samsung Q1P will work? Can it even run Aero?

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/download/supportDown.do?gr.....isp_nm=Q1P
November 15, 2007 8:27 PM PST


Cruiser		 The second link above show both graphic display driver for xp and vista for GMA900. For vista is version 6.14.10.4764. I'm already using that version for weeks, that still xpdm and NOT wddm, so you'll get NO aero.
November 16, 2007 9:57 AM PST


jon		 i cant beleive intel wont release wddm driver for 915 chipset!! my notebook cost £700 when i bought it summer 2006 and i was really looking forward to upgrading to vista premium!!

intel has completely done over its customers with this one !!!!

and also microsoft for there stupid advertising over the vista capable and vista premium ready
November 17, 2007 2:06 AM PST


stupid intel		 whats happening guys?? its now november and nothing has happened !! wheres josh gone ?? did he talk to any official people?? i read in a earlier post that intel could actually release a beta unnoficial wddm!! is this true?? absolutle disgrace this is !!! MILLIONS yes MILLIONS of people have been affected by this and intel and microsoft ( i suppose) havnt done a god damme thing about it !! there just not interested !! i see the petition has now got over 5000 signatures and im sure it would have a damme sight more if people new about it !! what really pisses me off is that theres no official person coming out and telling us the real deal !! i cant believe a company like intel wouldnt be concerned about its consumers on this issue !! and also labelling the intel 915 chipset " LOW END " "legacy" even though it supports directx 9.0 and pixel shader 2.0 !! big company like intel aint interested!! you would like to think a big company would listen to its customers!! how very wrong i was!!!!
November 17, 2007 2:08 AM PST


stupid intel		 that petion needs to be seen by somebody high up the ladder and all these complaints!! but i bet you they aint even saw it !!!!!!!
November 17, 2007 10:26 AM PST


intel ridiculous		 are intel forgetting that hundreds of thousands of people have gone out and bought windows vista!!! only to be told they cant run it !! i payed £350 for vista ultimate installed it but couldnt get aero!!! but intel doesnt care about that aslong as people still buy there produts they dont give a s*** about nothing!!! i want to hear from someone high up in the graphics department?? how come they dont come out and give us a detailed explanation??? they just fog us off with a stupid faq!! i think we can safely say we are not going to get what we want ( i hope im wrong) how come something more serious hasnt happened ?? were not just talking a couple of hundred people were talking millions!!! in the paper it said only 5% of people in uk will be able to upgrade to vista premium!! i cant stand it when people say its a low end legacy chip !! my laptop cost £700 when i bought it october 2006!!!!!! and the chip is directx 9.0 and pixel shader 2.0 compliant!!! also i just cant get my head round his HARDWARE SHEDULAR what the f**k is it ??? even that chuck da sylva guy didnt seem to know what it was?? any way every single person affected by this should boycott all intel products in the future!!!!
November 19, 2007 7:16 PM PST


JasonL98		 Xavier isnt doing anything here anymore, check out:
http://wddm.actieforum.com/a-backup-for-the-one-running-at-intel-f1/

for any updates from xavier and what is going on.
November 19, 2007 10:24 PM PST


Cruiser		 I have post a question at there, let's see if there any answer. But i'm not sure.
We all here hopping a miracle, don't hopping so much guys! I just hopping a tiny on this.
November 21, 2007 12:08 AM PST


pankaj singh		 these are very fast recovery type's files documented
November 21, 2007 12:09 AM PST


pankaj singh		 thanks for these product
November 21, 2007 3:13 AM PST


Carmelo		 Hello guys,
i really hate this situations : a man (xavier in this case) that try to make something really hard o really long to create (wddm drivers for 915 in this case) and says it to all over the world....And we that are believing that this will be created!!! Every day we check for news wasting our time.
Dears, the only solution is to change our hardware , and the only thing tha we ca do are complaints versus intel and a complete boicottage about intel products...

Cheers
Carmelo
November 21, 2007 5:50 PM PST


vincent		 A good question is "would another driver for a similar chipset allow the videocard performance to improve if the videocard had the same or less in specification requirements?"
November 21, 2007 10:01 PM PST


Kannan		 Hi,
Its waste of time man. I changed my laptop. Now i purchased the Nvida display adaptor. But processor i can't do anything. I need intel cpu for my work.

-Kannan M
November 24, 2007 5:30 AM PST


jon		 after finding out i coudlnt run aero glass on my notebook because of stupid intel i decided to check my uncles computer to see if he could run aero glass on his old looking desktop i downloaded the vista upgrade advisor and ran a check of his system and to my amazement he could run all editions of vista!! hes using radeon 9550 graphics!! i done a bit of searching on the internet and found out that radeon 9550 is pretty low end !! how do 915 and radeon 9550 compare because it seems to me that 915 would run aero just fine !!!
November 25, 2007 7:15 AM PST


will		 COME ON GET OFF UR CHAIR AND GIVE US THIS DRIVER,

U R GETTING SUED LOL - LOOKED AT THE BLOG HAHA
November 25, 2007 4:26 PM PST


AMD		 AMD is far superior to intel, plus they release drivers as soon as a new O/S comes out, look at their site and you will see they still support legacy integrated graphics chips, ati.amd.com
November 26, 2007 12:33 AM PST


Carmelo		 Hello guys ,
soon i will receive a new laptop from my company.

This laptop has a Sis Mirage3+ video card and supports areo!.

I stopped to wait for this drivers, good luck to everybody.

Carmelo
November 26, 2007 12:50 AM PST


Cruiser		 Good destiny of carmelo
November 26, 2007 5:06 AM PST


nobb1x		 >Hello guys ,
>soon i will receive a new laptop from my company.
>
>This laptop has a Sis Mirage3+ video card and supports areo!.

wow! you're lucky... sis chipsets usually are the worse of the whole world..
maybe you can get aero but look at the other scores too..
November 26, 2007 11:36 PM PST


Hugi		 i need update for Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset Family

cuz that thing turn off my pc (hp pavillion mobile) when i'm playing a game or watching some video...
November 27, 2007 11:52 AM PST


hchwa		 Anyone know a lawyer that can start a class action law suit again Intel for not providing the users with proper video driver for 915? Or we can all start a partition drive to boycott laptop with Intel graphic chips.......
November 27, 2007 1:01 PM PST


jon		 I ADVISE EVERYONE TO KEEP POSTING HERE AND DO ALL WE CAN TO FORCE INTEL INTO RELEASING WDDM FOR 915 CHIPSET !!!!!!!! WHAT REALLY PISSES IS THAT THERES NO ONE FROM GRAPHICS DEPARTMENT TELLING US ANYTHING?? AND IT SEEM JOSH BAILED A LONG TIME AGO! I RECALL HIM TELLING US THAT HE WOULD BE TRANSPARENT THROUGH ALL THIS AND TELL US ANY FINDINGS STRAIGHT AWAY!! YEAH RIGHT JOSH!!! OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE HAS TOLD HIM TO LAY OFF!!
November 28, 2007 1:59 AM PST


mich		 vista is a dog of an operating system anyway with or without wddm drivers,
i much rather a pc with 512 ram that boots clean into desktop in under 10.5 seconds as opposed to over a minute with 2gb ram and ye slugg overbloated os.
stick to xp + enjoy faster pc anyday anytime anywhere .
November 28, 2007 3:11 AM PST


jon		 a mitch i agree with ya to some extent but it would be nice to experience vista with full features just to see for my self!!
November 28, 2007 5:37 AM PST


Hasta La Vista Baby		 This is utter pish!!!! My lappy is less than a year old too and I cannot get Aero to work due to the 915 issues (or not really issues, but lack of driver issues)!

Come on Intel...get yer finger out yer ass and give us summat we can at least BETA test and report back with perhaps?

It's the LEAST u could do......go on, I DARE YA.........!!!!!!!
November 29, 2007 2:29 PM PST


andy		 Poor show intel. I am about to purchase 350 PCs and 1000 laptops. I will be ensuring they are not Intel.
November 29, 2007 11:04 PM PST


IBB		 goodbye my friends , i have new notebook and for one now Intel for me is enemy....good luck with driver!
December 5, 2007 7:05 PM PST


Freddy		 Good grief, what a bunch of whiners... getting p'd off at a hw company because an OS company changed the rules... if you're gonna get pissed, don't buy Microsoft products anymore!!! There are good OS alternatives that will prolly run a LOT better than Vista anyway... and you can get the same effects!
December 6, 2007 10:37 PM PST


Theo		 I'm pissed off at intel. They did a major disservice to vast numbers of their loyal customers by not supporting a very, very new video chipset. I remember Ati rage pro drivers that enjoyed backward compatibility drivers from windows 95 all the way to windows xp. And now we buy notebook with i915 video in 2007 and already finds the video chipset to be out of date in the same year???

There's just no excuse for the greed and the lack of consideration from both Microsoft and Intel in this issue.

Serves them right. Microsoft has built themselves a monstrocity of an os with vista and is now seeing their core customers withholding their new IT expenditures and looking elsewhere for their OS upgrade options.

Intel..... hmm.... i'm sure their greed-oriented marketing strategy will come back to hunt them. I'm going to make sure the future notebook purchases for my office will be an amd/ati based machine!!!

Screwxx You, intel and microsft!!
December 7, 2007 9:27 AM PST


Snaz		 Vista isn't a bad OS, Intel isn't a bad company, it was just a miscommunication. Intel wanted to get the 915 chipset out, and Microsoft wasn't yet ready to give the specs for Vista. Now don't get me wrong, I'm rather unhappy about this issue too. But I switched from XP to Vista, and upgraded my two and half year old laptop from 512MB to 2GB of ram, and Vista is running faster with the basic scheme than XP did, and Vista still looks better, I think. And the ram upgrade only cost me $50, which I don't feel is too much to complain about. The thing that surprised me the most about this is that no one has been able to figure out how to get around it. I've seen people do seemingly much crazier things which I'm sure anyone reading this has too, so it was just surprising. But I'm not one to talk, I don't have the technical skills to figure such a thing out, I was just saying it was a shock. That's all I had to say.
December 7, 2007 10:22 AM PST


Theo		 Vista is a bad os. If you've read the reports about the office benchmark test comparisons between xp and vista you'll know. Just google it. Vista is lagging behind xp in almost every category. Personally, i think it's wise to stick with xp. SP3 is coming out soon for xp, so that'll add to the lifespan of your xp. Vista just came out with a beta sp1, and the benchmark tests done still says it is lagging behind xp. We are talking about a whopping 50% reduction in speed or more even with vista sp1 beta.

You may not notice the slowness in vista because you haven't put the os to the test. But run a few cpu intensive programs in tantrum and see if the os still manages to keep up with xp.

i run my xp notebook with 2gb of ram too. 512mb isn't gonna cut it and besides, ram is unbelievably cheap these days.

Vista is a bad os. It's got a long way to go before the majority of the business community will consider the switch.

As for intel, huh. I'm reserving my opinions about them.
December 7, 2007 7:15 PM PST


mavericks77		 I need the driver also. I work for a major retailer and they were to purchase laptops for our managers. since I have one they asked my opinion. I told them not to waste there time. We have over 30 managers...it's alot of money. I've been watching this site for any news and still no good news. Someone from Intel needs to step up and be a man ...unless there all women over there and it explains why this crap happened
December 8, 2007 4:47 AM PST


Someone Who Hate's INTEL!!!!!		 well i have been watching this website for over 3 months now and still no news (good ones) and also no one from intel has come and said anything to us for example "we will release a beta", or "we have made a WDDM driver" or even no sorry we cant do it" tehy should at least tell us something rather than not saything anything. INTEL COME ONE AND GO YOUR COSTUMERS PROUD OTHERWISE PRESSURE GOUPS ARE GOING TO BUILD UP ON YA!!!!
December 11, 2007 2:22 AM PST


bujassim		 what is the latest news about the driver??!!
where is xavier?????
and where is his promisses?? or all his promisses are fake?
December 12, 2007 12:39 PM PST


Freddy		 Xavier is a fake. All his promises are BS. He took the money from the maroons that gave it to him and then disappeared.
December 14, 2007 5:15 AM PST


Jake		 This is an absoulte disgrace. Its been like a year now since vista has been RTM and golden with support for drivers bien finalized and all. I must say two words. First- I like vista, and i think its a major improvement over xp. BUT- With no aero glass on my core 2 duo with this stikin i915 chipset (wich is fused to the board) it really degrades it. I was sincerly hoping for the hacked driver from xavier but it looks like it aint gonna happen. i posted once on his forum and i never got any responses. I think our ownly hope is the guy called JackHard whos making software called Vystal, in which DWM uses your CPU not your GPU. Good luck to him, and bollocks 2 u xavier.
December 16, 2007 8:42 AM PST


AMD		 Everyone should just boycott Intel now, and buy AMD, they are the best company when it comes to support and are releasing drivers all the time even for chipsets 5 yrs old. I know, as one customer I will never buy Intel again, so imagine how much money intel will LOOSE by not funding this new driver.

Bye Intel!
December 20, 2007 5:06 AM PST


krishna_mailcity@yahoo		 please
December 28, 2007 3:54 PM PST


Ali		 Intel are just throwing away their customers!
December 29, 2007 6:10 AM PST


pragma		 so Xavier took the money and gone.. :] as i expected ...

the end of intel i915 driver issue....

this thread is dead
January 1, 2008 4:49 PM PST


hodesa		 josh is it hard to say 'no' ?
January 5, 2008 12:37 PM PST


IBB		 If constantly visit this page, also they give the money, do have not understood no drivers for 915, more on you will be earned. Therefore, stop visit this blog and will extend them this pleasure!
January 8, 2008 5:06 AM PST


neo		 ok
January 9, 2008 11:21 AM PST


nani		 hope that intel will at leat nw com up with some solution.....

bt i think this issue should be given more attention/publicity @ international level...only then these ppl will wake up.....
so can ne one find a way to giv publicity to be aware of intel products????
January 12, 2008 1:06 PM PST


hope		 Hello? Is anyone from intel out there!!!

Still want WDDM for GMA 900...

Maybe best is to send bedtime prayers and ask GOD to deal with Intel and vanish them from the chipset race! How many more people will loose their jobs then? You do the math...

God, if you are out there you already hear what we people ask!
January 12, 2008 10:03 PM PST


Cruiser		 I follow this thread from august may be. But I'm sure now, Xavier is not doing this WDDM project anymore, he stopped the project. The project was dead. He never post any command for months. He has gone.

Now we have to face it, as long as we use intel 910/915 chipset, we will never get vista Aero... NEVER.... THAT IS THE FACT.

STOP WAITING THE WDDM FOR THIS CHIPSET, IT WILL NEVER EXIST.
January 13, 2008 10:43 AM PST


Will		 So He Has Run Away With Money!

Come On Please I'm 13 I Need This Aero!!!
January 16, 2008 3:48 AM PST


Fluorel		 Please.... Give us this WDDM Driver... I've bought my laptop 800€ and they are no possibilities to upgrade Graphic Card...
January 21, 2008 2:33 PM PST


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request: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/

Or you can visit the Ubuntu Forum to know more: http://ubuntuforums.org/
Trust me, once you have installed Ubuntu and experienced it's GUI interface and eye candy features (Compiz-Fusion or Beryl) you will not regret.

Just take a look at it before you say "no"
;)

Brazilian Regards,
Rodolfo
January 24, 2008 3:38 AM PST


pragma		 people are talking to God here?? :] is this some kind of church ?
January 24, 2008 3:19 PM PST


Sawyer		 intel...Don't play with us
I'm serious it's been a long time since you did NOTHING about this driver(as far as we know). And if you guys took so long to say 'NO, we can't build/write this driver', you better think twice, because I'm sick and tired of staying here, waiting for a reply.
At least you could just tell us what's being done about this.

By the way, the latest driver was released in 2004 for windows.
What about linux users?

I tell you what: if you guys have some respect to your customers, you should consider to keep us update about this driver, not only for windows but also for linux distros as well.
Have you put yourselves in our position? How do you think we are supposed to fell?

I tell you again, intel: DON'T turn your back on the community
You have been warned. Write down the driver ASAP. Please!
January 26, 2008 7:51 PM PST


Loaded4th		 I've experienced a lot of problems with Intel software, especially Vista drivers. I don't have any confidence with Intel anymore...
January 28, 2008 3:49 PM PST


PLZ IT ENDS HERE		 Eveybody Stop!!! They wont release it!!!!! it never excisted you are talking to the wrong people its not "intel" its MS who put the limit of the GPU And they will never release it And it ends HERE.......
January 28, 2008 3:52 PM PST


O.MASON		 how about a piece of hardware that fits seamlessly into the cardbus slot/PCMCIA that allows intel 910gm/vista users to enable aero and enjoy vista's hype? i don't think my idea reaches into the furthest depts of space. Infact you would be able to add more megabites to power the beautiful aero fcn.

you don't have to make it pricey.

thnk you
January 31, 2008 9:35 PM PST


JOHN		 i feel like i just paid for garbage;
it would have been best if microsoft had just kept their new opperating for new computers,
i spent hundreds and hundreds of dallars to upgrade my dell inspiron 2200 and one of the key new features is mi; no all of the new features are missing; money well spent?
i don't konw if it is microsoft or intel that is responsible; but thanks you have cured me of consumerism. you sons of bs will have to but me off the internet for me to upgrade again or my system must die first.
Dam you intel but most importantly f*** you microsoft.
had to get it off my chess because money don't grow on trees. my frigging swet
keeps it coming.
February 1, 2008 1:52 PM PST


Manuel Novoa - Spain		 I started to read this interesting blog but I felt bored at the middle... And I went to the end at last. Some comments about this and sorry for my bad english. First of all, I'm a senior technician with 15 years of experience in repairing/building PC Systems, so I'm not a newbie. In Spain I earn a mere 750 €/month -some 800 u$d- so it's not easy to renew my personal computers' often. Anyway, I do own two laptops, both with the i915 chipset. When I bought them, almost a year and a half, there was very little news about Vista. Six months ago I obtained a DVD with Vista Ultimate with the nope patch, and I installed it on both computers maitaining however my 100% legal Windows XP Home SPII. I've noticed the following: First, Vista is by far more smooth and fast than XP, having a better energy administration, thus making batteries last almost 1 hour more -using the appropiate power managing options. Vista is also more stable -i think- than XP. It's true I can't run Aero, but anyway this is not a problem. As I don't use Movie Maker at all it's not a problem to have it or not. As I respected my XP Home partition, I always can return there for some tasks as connecting my projector, for example, or watching the computer's output to my TV, using software as Cyberlink PowerCinema -much more fast and reliable than Media Center and very less demanding. I've also heard about someone telling people to switch to AMD. Funny. As a technician I dont' want anything with AMD. There are HOTTY processors, and this can be so dangerous if you don't take some care about. There are also a bit poor in performance, and if you say that Intel tell lies, what about AMD with the XP processors families? Did U ever saw or test this: AMD XP 2000+ IS RUNNING AT 1,6 GHz???? Sure AMD don't lie, uhhh? Just put 'troubles with AMD' at google and see. I like Intel chips and it's supporting policies. When they released the famous Pentium processors with a small but important bug in its floating point unit almost 15 years ago, they fastly changed them without charge to each and every customer which asked them to do so. The fastest and reliable processors nowadays are from Intel. The reliable chipsets nowadays are from Intel. And the most friendly OS is that from Microsoft...

Just a final word: I like the way Vista is performing on my two laptops. Nevertheless my next one -hope this year, if I can sell them at good price- will be Intel Core Duo with a dedicated graphic card (nVidia or Ati) or a newer, stable and low-power consumption Intel graphic card.

Thanks Ron for your effort, this only fact, Intel having personnel like U, is also the fact that Intel has the right and better persons working with them. May God be with you and your family.

Also greetings & the same for Chris and the other people who only try to point out the real and positive things.

Manuel
February 2, 2008 5:53 AM PST


just_bizzare		 I will sell my laptop, because it has an 915i chipset/ graphic card.
INTEL SUCKS!
My next laptop will 100% have an AMD CPU and ATI or nVidia video card.
February 5, 2008 8:59 AM PST


Slask		 did anyone try the Vista Service Pack 1? does this fix the WDDM Driver prob on the i915 chipsets???
February 6, 2008 10:58 PM PST


JohnnyB		 ''did anyone try the Vista Service Pack 1? does this fix the WDDM Driver prob on the i915 chipsets???''

LOL...o yes sure....service pack will fix this crap!
February 7, 2008 7:01 AM PST


Amit Kumar Nath		 It's great to have an Intel motherboard,but sometimes it happens that the driver CD is not handed over to the customer as me.I have bought an Intel 945Gccr motherboard,but didn't get the driver CD & I also tried to get it from the dealer,but was unable to get it.I was rejected to be handed over the original driver CD.In India is this common?or we need to suffer for the negligence of Intel corporation.The dealer just convayed the messege to me as written as under "I don't know where the driver CD.It was not provided withthe motherboard."I got no driver CD when I opened the box of the motherboard.It was empty of the driver CD.
February 8, 2008 1:31 PM PST


just_bizzare		 About 5 minutes ago i have sold my laptop ( with 915i video card ) .
Now, i will buy a toshiba a210-16g notebook who has an amd tl-60 processor and ati hd 2600 video card. Haha intel ... GOOD BYE !!!
February 8, 2008 4:23 PM PST


Henry		 You guys should stop hating on Intel; place the blame where it belongs, on Microsoft.
Microsoft says a graphics chip must have some features for WDDM.
WDDM involves significant rights restrictions stuff, mandatory driver signing AFTER Microsoft has OK'ed the driver. This is what prevents Intel from releasing an unofficial driver; they could release an unofficial driver, but Vista would disallow you from loading and using it since Microsoft has not signed it.

I have a Dell Inspiron 2200 with a 915. I jettisoned Windows (XP in my case) the hell off that box, put on Ubuntu. I can turn up my desktop effects as much as I want.. translucent windows, cube effect, windows that jiggle around when I move them. The chip doesn't even break a sweat. Videos'll jiggle no problem too. Why? People working on Linux development don't restrict what drivers people can use on their systems. Intel has FULL open source drivers for the whole line from 740 (which I've never seen one of..), 810 series right up through 965.

If you guys really want to ditch your UMPCs, send 'em to me! 8-)
February 10, 2008 8:41 PM PST


vincent1		 i am not getting aero theme on my laptop computer, experience rating 1.0 (gaming graphics)
most games require 32mb of videocard ram , intel gm 915 has 128mb yet my software doesn't work. no hardware acceleration, can't upgrade,. i thought my games didn't work due to a compatibility issue with vista until i tried it on my win95 400mb of hard drive, same results. i dont understand, intel should just make hardware acceleration because my graphics card is bieng held back from it'sfull performance, the graphics card has sagnificant data rates and ram, mi realised all my other computers had hardwaer acceleration except for win95 400mb hdd. wddm has higher compatibility rates too. i dont know c++ well enough tomakemy own driver (or the graphicschipset too). i dont blame the whole company intel or microsoft, i blame the manager for drivers of chipsets of intel for lack of communication tohardware developement, probably thinking games can work at 1118kbps of graphics seconds at 1fps which is reasonable , yet not acceptable in 32 bit bitmapx3mode in 1280x1050. i also don't ave a wddm or a xpdm, i have a xddm.
February 11, 2008 9:30 AM PST

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 You guys might find this interesting. This is a news article, and doesn't represent Intel's views, etc. I'm just sharing a link to a related news story I found:

"Allchin: We really botched "Vista Capable" scheme"

"Now the court has heard that several Microsoft employees also shared Wong's doubts. One employee's email stated that "even a piece of junk will qualify" for the "Windows Vista Capable" sticker, according to court testimony reported in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

Corporate vice president, Mike Nash, was also quoted as saying: "I personally got burnt. Are we seeing this from a lot of customers? I now have a $2,100 e-mail machine."

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/buyer/news/164457/allchin-we-really-b.....cheme.html
February 12, 2008 11:03 AM PST

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 There's some more discussion on this topic (specifically, the PCPro article) over at Slashdot:

Microsoft Had Doubts About the 'Vista Capable' Label (http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/12/1658249)
February 19, 2008 1:56 AM PST


DChiuch		 Well, thanks for the effort Josh and everyone.

But do you think we actually have any hope of getting onto someone in the graphics department?
February 20, 2008 12:46 PM PST


O.Mason		 i just got comfortable with xddm drivers running my vista experience and now for some odd reason my pc reads an error when i attemp to use windows vista's media center. According to my 900 accelerator yesterday, my video card had 128mb of ram to day i only have 96mb of video ram.
what's going on here I am soooooooooooooooooooo
confused???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
February 21, 2008 7:25 AM PST


Nirmal		 Hey josh bancoft stop saying that its microsoft fault that the GMA900 don't have a wddm driver .....for me the fault is with intel corp because IT IS intel graphics card ...not microsoft and INTEL CORP SHOULD BE THE ONE TO provide WDDM DRIVERS FOR HIS GPU not microsoft ......

THE NEXT PC THAT I WILL BUY WILL BE ONE WITHOUT AN INTEL GPU ..SORRY INTEL BUT I DECIDED THIS BECAUSE YOU DON'T PROVIDE SUPPORT TO YOUR OWN PRODUCT ..JUST TOO BAD ...HOPE EVRYONE IN THIS BLOG WILL DO THE SAME.
February 21, 2008 8:54 AM PST

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 I really feel like I'm missing something here that you all are talking about. I'm really trying to understand this issue, so please, tell me what I'm missing in the following:

Microsoft decided to make some "premium" features in Windows Vista accessible only if you have a high-end video card. Correct?

There was a lot of confusion caused by how Microsoft marketed these features in Vista - "Vista Capable" versus "Vista Premium Ready". Correct?

The gateway that Microsoft uses in the Vista software itself to determine whether you get the "premium" features (Aero Glass theme, DVD Maker, Movie Maker, etc.) is whether or not your video card has a "WDDM" - Windows Display Driver Model - driver (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Display_Driver_Model). Correct?

Since it's Microsoft's software, they get to determine the criteria as to whether any particular video card can have a WDDM driver. They set the requirements. The cutoff line has to be drawn somewhere. Some cards will qualify, and some cards won't. Correct?

Intel 915 integrated graphics, an older graphics chipset that is aimed at low cost, low power applications like laptops and other mobile devices - NOT PERFORMANCE - does not meet the WDDM driver criteria that Microsoft has set. Correct?

Intel CAN'T write a WDDM driver that somehow magically overcomes the fact that it DOESN'T MEET THE WDDM REQUIREMENTs THAT MICROSOFT CONTROLS. That is a fact.

Lots of you were led to believe, through how Vista was confusingly marketed, that your computers with Intel 915 Integrated Graphics would be "Vista Capable". And this is true. Your computers with 915 graphics will run Windows Vista just fine. That is a fact.

Lots of you are angry, however, because your laptops with Intel 915 Integrated Graphics are NOT "Vista Premium Ready". You thought, for whatever reasons, that "Vista Capable" was the same as "Vista Premium Ready". That is a fact.

You probably feel kind of dumb that you bought a laptop with Intel 915 Integrated Graphics and then you bought Vista (or you bought them at the same time), and now, it doesn't do what you thought it would do (even though there was no marketing and no promise that the Vista Premium features would work!). I know I would. That is a fact.

Now, you're mad. You feel like you got screwed, got burned, got tricked. You feel the need to lash out at someone. You could lash out at Microsoft, but that's like tilting at windmills. And where would you vent your feelings? Maybe you're complaining just as loudly to Microsoft, and I'm just not seeing it. Someone please provide me a link if this is the case.

At the end of all this, I hope you can see how Intel's hands are tied here. We got burned by the unclear Vista marketing just as much as you did, because now we (I) have hundreds of unhappy 915 owners that are angry and need to lash out, so you're lashing out at Intel.

I'm sorry this happened. I'll keep my personal opinions on how Microsoft handled this to myself. I hope that my efforts to explain and clarify what's going on have helped you to understand, if not to dissipate your anger.

You're free to buy laptops with whatever kind of graphics chipset you want in the future. If you value performance, and want to be able to run the "eye candy" premium features in Windows Vista, I hope that you do your homework, and buy a laptop with a graphics chipset that meets the requirements that Microsoft has set forth (hint: other Intel integrated graphics chipsets, beyond 915, do this just fine).

If you decide that performance and these "premium" visual features are important, you might decide it's worth it to spend the extra money to get a dedicated graphics card in your laptop from Nvidia or ATI.

And, deep within the bowels of Intel, I'm sure someone is working on a time traveling magic wand to go back and add features to the 915 hardware spec, then magically transform all of the 915 chips sitting in factories and warehouses and in your homes and offices, so that they meet the WDDM driver requirements, and are suddenly capable of running the premium stuff in Windows Vista.

I'll let you know as soon as that's finished, and ready for release. ;-)
February 21, 2008 11:38 AM PST


A ST		 Josh, it's not just the eye candy features that are missing. If you open windows media player in full screen mode where the panel has the glass effect, if you hover your mouse on the glass bar for more than a minute, the video freezes and you'll have to close out of it to recover. Intel has not even provided a specific driver for vista that addresses those kinds of issues.

While I do understand that this is not your fault, and I don't blame you for it, I think Intel has decided to take the easy way out and focus on the rest of their products.
February 21, 2008 12:29 PM PST


Netto Dias		 I am very disappointed with INTEL and I will never buy again a product that has graphics card integrated by intel.
February 21, 2008 12:30 PM PST

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 @A ST - that sounds like a bug/support problem. Have you contacted Microsoft support (http://support.microsoft.com) about it? Have you contacted Intel support (http://support.intel.com) about it? This is the first I've heard of this particular problem, and it's definitely not characteristic of the complains that I've been hearing about 915 graphics on Vista. The compaints I hear are about the fact that you can't run Aero Glass, DVD Maker, Movie Maker, etc. Bugs, glitches, and support issues are outside the scope of what we're talking about here.

Consider this a gentle reminder that this is a software developer community, and we're pretty powerless to address support issues. But I do hope you can get your problem fixed by going through the appropriate channels.
February 22, 2008 8:52 AM PST


Passel		 This is really crappy from both intel and microsoft. Intel because they wont make a wddm driver for the 915i or at least a beta or something to make it work. Microsoft because (thats all that needs to be said). I have bought vista ultimate for my dads buisness, but because his pc has the 915i chipset, it doesint look as good as on my laptop. :(

P.S. AMD/ATI or Nvidia = :D
February 23, 2008 7:34 AM PST


Ricardo Ramirez Gonzalez		 Have anybody heard something about a lawsuit against Microsoft?
It's something about the "Vista Capable" sticker.
February 23, 2008 7:47 AM PST


Ricardo Ramirez Gonzalez		 This link follow the info:

http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/bre.....eid=333123
February 24, 2008 1:07 PM PST


klareo		 "It's impossible for the Intel 915 Integrated Graphics to run aero properlly" <= LIES.......

If that was true , I would like to understand WHY IT USED TO PERFECTLY WORK with windows vista' s beta versions ????
February 25, 2008 9:40 AM PST

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 @klareo Want to know why Aero Glass worked in beta versions of Vista? Because Microsoft had not yet implemented the forced check that says "You can't run Aero Glass unless you have a certified WDDM driver".

The issue is not whether 915 is technically capable of running Aero Glass. It is (or was). The issue is that Microsoft has written that forced check into Vista that won't LET you run Aero Glass unless you meet the requirements they've written into the software. That means a certified WDDM driver. Which Intel can't write for 915, because 915 doesn't meet the WDDM spec.

If you can manage to find and run a beta version of Vista, be my guest... :-)
February 26, 2008 7:42 AM PST


klareo		 @Josh Bancroft

OK, so why can't such a huge and influential firm as INTEL is can't gently ask microsoft to soften the WDDM REQUIREMENTs in their next service pack ???
=> So everyone can be satisfied........

Can't you just give them directly a feedback about this HUGE issue which has been bothering so many (Thousands...) intel consumers for such a long time ?????....


Intel is a major partner for microsoft. (=> Microsoft will listen to you)
February 27, 2008 9:27 AM PST


Passel		 "Intel is a major partner for microsoft. (=> Microsoft will listen to you)"
I agree with that.
February 27, 2008 10:01 AM PST


Nirmal		 Thanks josh for your reply ,but i want to know if intel will provide a proper gma 900 driver for WINDOWS VISTA READY PC'S as you know ANY VISTA EDITION runs (BASIC THEME) well on 915G BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT I HAVE XP EARLIER ON MY PC AND MY NEED FOR SPEED MOST WANTED GAME RUNS PRETTY WELL ON XP BUT NOW THAT I'VE UPGRADED TO VISTA THE SAME GAMES CRASHES AND IS NOT PLAYABLE ON GMA 900 WITH VISTA AND I DON'T WANT TO DOWNGRADE TO XP ,SO WILL INTEL PROVIDE A SPECIAL DRIVER FOR GMA900 ON VISTA BASIC THEME SO THAT I CAN PLAY PC GAMES AS I USED TO DO ON XP........AND ALSO CAN'T OPEN WINDOWS MOVIE MAKER
February 27, 2008 10:18 AM PST


Nirmal		 BUT JOSH THERE'S SOMETHING I WANT TO TELL YOU ...IT'S ABT MY OLD 2002 PC THAT HAVE NVIDIA GEFORCE 5200 AND ALSO IS CAPABLE OF RUNNING VISTA AERO FEATURES WHEREAS MY 2006 PC WITH GMA 900 CAN'T.......and also all my new pc games runs much more better on gma 900 than on geforce 5200 but still nvidia manage a wddm driver for geforce 5200 and intel SIMPLY CAN'T DUE TO HARDWARE LIMITATIONS ....I DON'T SEE ANY HARDWARE LIMITATION WHEN PLAYING GAMES ON GMA900 WHICH IS MORE POWERFUL THAN GEFORCE 5200!!!!!! HOPE INTEL UNDERSTAND THAT.
February 28, 2008 12:06 AM PST


James		 Josh, please don't act like Intel was the unwitting victim of Microsoft's deception:

"In the end, we lowered the requirement to help Intel make their quarterly earnings so they could continue to sell motherboards with the 915 graphics embedded," Microsoft executive John Kalkman wrote in the message, referring to a class of Intel graphics technology that doesn't work with Windows Vista's most-advanced graphics technology, known as Aero Glass.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/352993_msftvista28.html

It's bad enough that the two companies conspired to deceive customers into buying the 915, but it wouldn't be shocking if the artificial limitations imposed by Vista had some Intel influence behind it to spur 945 sales.

Personally, I wasn't burned by the Vista capable logo, I got burned by seeing the 915 work with the beta and assuming that would carry over. I didn't realize that a bait-and-switch was in the offing.
February 28, 2008 10:01 AM PST

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 James, that's the first I've heard of that particular "conspiracy". Remember, I'm just a low-level guy. I have about as much insight and influence on what the executives at Intel and Microsoft decide to do as you do. ;-)

And for those who are (rightly!) angry that Aero Glass worked in the Vista betas, but not in the final version, consider this:

The Intel 915 Graphics XPDM driver that allowed Aero Glass to work in the betas DID NOT CHANGE FROM THE BETAS TO THE FINAL VERSION OF VISTA.

If the driver didn't change, ask yourself, what changed to make those features stop working? And who was responsible for making that decision?
February 28, 2008 12:39 PM PST


James		 Well, the answer is that the change was the WDDM requirement, and that was done by Microsoft.

But then the question is, why did MS have to force WDDM as an Aero glass requirement, and not throw in a usable workaround? Even something even as convoluted as their method for loading unsigned drivers would be extremely welcome.

The only reason why MS would do that is that the infrastructure behind Aero glass was too tied to WDDM for them to waste resources on supporting the XPDM model, but that idea goes out the window when you consider how close to final the last Aero-working beta was.

It seems awfully convenient for Intel that WDDM has an obscure requirement, despite its irrelevance in making Aero work, that the 915 doesn't handle.

There are basically three scenarios I can imagine:

1. Intel said, "Hey MS, let's force the consumer into upgrading their laptops by tweaking WDDM just enough to screw them!"

2. MS felt a legitimate software-engineering need to tweak WDDM in a way that breaks the 915, and Intel said, "Awesome, go MS!"

3. MS felt a legitimate software-engineering need to tweak WDDM in a way that breaks the 915, and Intel said, "Hey, that's going to break our 915! Can't you do something?" MS said, "No."

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Intel-profit-reducing option #3 didn't happen.
February 28, 2008 1:58 PM PST

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 @James - that is probably a pretty apt assessment of the situation, but again, I have no idea which, if any, of those scenarios is closer to the truth of what happened, and honestly, I doubt we'll ever find out. :-(
February 28, 2008 9:47 PM PST


XAVIER		 I'm hardly dead yet.

So far we are waiting to see what will become of this whole vista compatibility debacle, the next court date will be soon, and i would imagine intel and microsoft will make cases known then.

Most of the methods my team has developed to implement PS2+ in vista go right up there with a number illegal warez practices , so currently its only a matter of time before we have addiquit legal council incase we are sued.

To give you guys an example, the current and easiest way to is to easily fake vista into thinking that its infact a earlier release candidate utilizing the old (yet revamped) lakeport Vid.'s.

Which is easily accomplished and achieved by illegal methods used by most warez venus.


Just letting you guys know whats up,

Warm Regards,
XAVIER
February 28, 2008 11:47 PM PST


James		 Some more e-mails have come out. It looks like Intel tricked some naive MS scrub into adding the junk tier to the Vista logo program, the rest of upper management decided it wasn't worth getting into a fight over, and the Vista team was forced to go along with it.

http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9882376-37.html?tag=nefd.lede

No additional info on why MS couldn't budge on the WDDM requirement for Aero glass though.
February 29, 2008 9:38 AM PST

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 Given the fact that this whole issue is blowing up, in terms of mainstream coverage, talk of class action lawsuits, I've decided to lock this comment thread. The discussion has run its course as it pertains to Intel Software Network and this blog. I'm sure there will be other, more appropriate places to continue this conversation. This is no longer the place, and I don't want to spend any time talking to lawyers about this. I'm just a blogger who tried to start some conversations, and get some answers, and this is beyond me and beyond this blog now.
September 27, 2008 11:51 AM PDT

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 I have an older graphic chipset, the Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family. Does anyone know what i have to download to get an updated driver for this chipset?
September 29, 2008 7:22 AM PDT


anon		 may 07.....sept 08
any news????
September 30, 2008 2:24 AM PDT


a boy		 intel shoud write a WDDM driver for 915G/M，too many people need WDDM driver of 915G/GM
September 30, 2008 2:24 AM PDT


a boy		 intel shoud write a WDDM driver for 915G/M，too many people need WDDM driver of 915G/GM
October 10, 2008 10:57 AM PDT


Ali		 Please, we need a WDDM driver for Intel
October 16, 2008 10:10 AM PDT


Ali Jabbar		 Any updates ??????

OCT 16th 2008

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