HDMI Audio: Intel's Biggest Little Secret In Home Theater PCs

By Aaron Brezenski (Intel) (5 posts) on April 28, 2008 at 12:00 pm

I won't say my last post here was harsh-- it was heartfelt and survives a reread without me flinching-- but I wanted to be fair and illustrate why I think it's a big issue. What competitive advantage are we squandering / have we squandered here with HDCP issues over HDMI?

I won't go too deep into the history of HDMI and HDCP in PCs; I'll just summarize and say that early HDMI-enabled graphics cards from our competition were missing HDCP protection, and there were threats of lawsuits because they originally advertised their chips (not the actual end-user cards, mind you, their chips) as "HDCP-ready".

Though Intel was comparatively late to the game on HDMI, as far back as the 945G we supported HDMI through the use of conversion chips from our partners. These chips sit on the SDVO bus (as I've mentioned earlier, this is an interface which is muxed into PCIe from our northbridge) and convert the SDVO video into the HDMI signalling protocol.

Keep in mind that when the SDVO-HDMI chips (most common are the Chrontel 7315 and the Silicon Image 1390) were being designed, the released HDMI spec was at 1.0, and much of the audio portion of the 1.1 spec (which added a lot of audio capabilities) was still a work in progress.

I don't know which individual at Intel is responsible for deciding to ask the SDVO chip vendors to include an Azalia (aka Intel HD Audio) interface on the SDVO chip, but I hope that person got lots of stock options. It was an idea ahead of its time, risky, and although it was ultimately flawed due to content protection issues which arose after the design had already been finalized, it currently still provides Intel with a competitive advantage:

For the past two years, only Intel's HDMI audio has had 7.1 channels of lossless, high-def sound.

I write this on April 25, 2008, and that advantage is barely publicized but already falling away.

What happened?

Technical History

Speculating on what goes on in the conference rooms of our competitors is ultimately a fruitless exercise, but one could guess that, being graphics companies, they simply de-prioritized the audio portions of HDMI in favor of the video. Went with the part they understood best, in other words.

I can sympathize-- I'm alternately suprised and impressed that we didn't make the same mistake.

Some technical discussion is in order. HDMI was designed as a single-cable solution for audio and video. The video passes in much the same way it has on older interfaces like DVI and VGA: draw a screen line by line, finish the screen, wait an instant, and then start drawing the next screen; do this 50 or 60 times per second. In HDMI, the "wait an instant" portion of the time (known as the "blanking interval" by video nerds) is actually long enough to pass a significant amount of data, and it's referred to as the Data Island.

The HDMI spec allows the Data Island to be stuffed with all sorts of things, but germane to this discussion is that as of HDMI 1.1 it can be filled with audio packets.

All sorts of audio packets. A typical CD player puts out digital audio in a format called Linear Pulse Code Modulation (LPCM): up to 2 channels worth of data at 16 bit resolution and 44.1kHz sampling frequency. That's allowed over HDMI. A DVD player can put out 2 channels of LPCM at 24 bit resolution and 96kHz sampling frequency. HDMI permits this, too. DVD players can also put out 6-channel lossy compressed sound in the form of Dolby Digital or DTS. HDMI is pleased to offer this service as well.

Of course, you can get all this over the old S/PDIF protocol (the optical or coaxial digital cable which comes out of a DVD player and goes into a receiver or TV), and lots of people do. The real benefit to HDMI audio is the ability to transfer massively more sound data than S/PDIF was designed for.

With HDMI 1.1, you can send 8 channels of lossless, uncompressed sound in the form of LPCM at up to 24bit resolution and 192kHz sampling rate. Even those crazed audiophiles who think the sound of old vinyl records still beats the digitized CD versions concede that at that resolution and sampling rate there is no way for the human ear to distinguish the recording from analog. It's the Holy Grail of multichannel audio, essentially equivalent or better than the studio masters used to make the film prints that go to theaters.

It's nice, and it's only in the past three years or so that there have been HDMI receivers available which can actually process that level of sound; prior to that, high-definition multichannel sound had to be converted to analog and sent to the receiver that way. That worked, but the quality of the result was always limited by the Digital-to-Analog Converters (DACs) which convert high-def sound data to analog signals-- and the DACs in most motherboard solutions are passable but not great. With an HDMI solution, the data is sent digitally and the receiver's DACs are used, and generally speaking the DACs found in an A/V receiver are going to be significantly better than ones chosen by a motherboard vendor trying to save a buck or two. (I'm not criticizing... that's just the difference between business models for the two industries.)

HDMI, then, is really the most efficient way to pass high-end multichannel audio from the PC to the receiver. As mentioned before, older digital methods like SPDIF are limited to 2 channels or compressed 6-channel sound which (though it typically sounds very good) loses something in the translation. It's the interface of choice for those who want to take advantage of high-resolution >2 channel sound formats found on DVD-Audio, HD DVD, and Blu-ray disks.

The Ball: Dropped

Despite the fact that HDMI 1.1 (and greater) have been spec'd out for several years, video cards have, at best, provided SPDIF-level sound. A good part of this may be the focus of their business (video rather than audio), and another part of it is the "who cares?" factor: SPDIF audio is good enough for most people. Humans are very visually oriented in general, and it's far easier to notice compression artifacts in an MPEG2 image than it is to notice the equivalent in a Dolby Digital soundtrack. That doesn't mean the audio artifacts are not there, annoying those that can hear them, but it's evident to those in the industry that high-quality is not the highest goal of most PC listeners: MP3s, flawed as they may be, are way more popular than high-def audio like DVD-Audio or Sony's SACD formats.

But that doesn't mean the market for a high-def audio solution does not exist, just that it's a niche market. You'd think the sound card folks would have stepped in, right? That is their business, after all. Alas, no; the HDMI spec assumes you're sending video along with the audio, and evidently the sound card makers decided it was not worth the bother.

So: HDMI is the best way to transmit high-definition audio, but video card makers-- even when they do send the audio-- don't support the high-def specs and audio card makers by and large just aren't playing along.

Enter the Intel solution. Late to the HDMI game, and only on motherboards (no discrete cards yet), Intel piggybacked its HDMI implementation on the pre-existing Intel HD Audio functionality by hooking the SDVO chips into the HD Audio bus on the motherboard as just another codec. (For those not familiar with Azalia-speak, essentially the SDVO-HDMI chip is recognized as just an extra sound device to write to-- just like a Realtek or Sigmatel or other normal audio chip found on the motherboard.)

There have been bugs (and still are: the repeater mode bug I mentioned in my previous post is one of two serious ones) but to a pretty good approximation It Just Works. It may sound hard to believe, but a not insignificant number of HTPC people are buying Intel integrated graphics solutions for this reason alone-- full resolution 6- and 8-channel audio simply cannot be passed digitally in any other way than on certain specific Intel platforms.

That's a win, but it's been a pretty quiet one. I've been crowing about it among the enthusiast crowd as soon ever since I figured it out (the functionality is buried in our graphics drivers and not exactly obvious unless you know what you're looking for) and it's pretty well known now in those circles, but I haven't seen Intel as a company using it for bragging rights.

Given some of the other stuff we do brag about, I'll admit this is a bit mysterious to me, but I'll chalk it up to internal ignorance: even our own customer support folks don't seem to know the functionality is there and in some cases don't believe our customers when they're asked to provide assistance. The sound chip drivers are, after all, the responsibility of Realtek or Sigmatel-- that's what we've been instructing customer support to say for years-- and Intel doesn't offer assistance for those. The end-user must be mistaken when he or she claims that there's an Intel-generated and -supported HDMI Audio driver, right?

Bottom line: excellent implementation, kudos to the Intel HDMI Audio driver team. Poor publication. I'm sure when it debuted in the 945G timeframe there was little to crow about-- you could barely even find a receiver which could accept the audio over HDMI, then. But once HD DVD (RIP) and Blu-ray came out and the G965 was capable of playing them, I think we probably should have started evangelizing our solution more in the press.

"The only way to get the full audio you deserve." Or something like that. See, there's a reason I'm not in Marketing.

The Future

I mentioned before that our lead here is going away; it seems at least one of our competitors is finally claiming to supply the same full audio capabilities over HDMI on its latest motherboard chipset. The functionality is still not working in their drivers, which is why I say "claiming", but let's be conservative and assume it's only a matter of time. We can only assume that our other competitor will follow sooner rather than later.

Advantage lost, apparently.  :(  Are there ways we can still provide added value in this space?

The answer is yes, but time is of the essence, because dollars to donuts the competition is working on this, too.

The HDMI spec has been revised twice since the initial 8-channel LPCM capability was added. Rev 1.2 added support for natively passing DVD-A and SACD streams without decoding them into LPCM first, and Rev 1.3 added support for natively passing the new high-def lossless formats (Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio) used in Blu-ray. Any player worth its salt can already decode these new formats into LPCM, so why bother sending the original bitstream instead?

The answer lies in various "helpful" things which get done to the sound once it leaves a Blu-ray disk. In order to make sure the audio from the movie can be interrupted seamlessly by pleasant sounds like the Windows "warning" noise or the "you've got mail sound", the LPCM isn't passed directly to the audio port-- it's mixed in with whatever other sounds are "needed".

Few enthusiasts trust the player software to leave the sound alone, and even fewer trust Windows to do the same. (And they have reason not to: Microsoft's kmixer (on XP and before) historically munged the sound enough that many sound card designers bypassed it and wrote their own software instead.) If you can send the raw undecoded bitstream, on the other hand, you are exempt from this tampering. The HDMI 1.3 spec is what enables this, and no solution currently exists to do this on the PC. If Intel wins the race to that functionality, it can retain competitive advantage in the audio space.

Beyond this, there is the matter of what Microsoft has dubbed the "Protected Audio-Video Path" or "PAVP".  Basically, the content owners have set requirements on what a player needs to do in order to maintain control of protected material, and Microsoft has translated these requirements into hardware and driver requirements for graphics/audio suppliers (including Intel).  When you get to the bottom of the matter, what it essentially means is that all audio and video need to be encrypted the entire time they're in the PC until they are sent out an analog port or another encrypted interface like HDCP-protected HDMI or DVI.  If this encryption cannot be maintained over the entire path, the player software is required to artifically reduce the quality of the audio before sending it out on the unprotected path.

Right now, there are so few audio solutions which accomodate this that all playback software for Blu-ray downconverts all audio to lower quality, though you might not notice it unless you're a sound fanatic.  But later this year, the player software folks will be modifying their players to pass the full audio over "protected" interfaces.  Intel needs to ensure it's in this space-- right now, doing everything over the (non-encrypted) Intel HD Audio bus, we're in the same boat as everyone else in terms of downconversion.

This article was longer than I expected or even wanted it to be.  The message, if you've bothered to read this far, is: Intel was way ahead in the HDMI Audio game, but the competition has almost caught up.  For a decisive win with HTPC enthusiasts, we need to ensure our HDMI audio solutions are ready for undecoded bitstream transfer of Dolby TruHD and DTS HD MA, and at the same time support whatever PAVP craziness Microsoft has concocted this week.

EDIT: Just a quick note: in my "The Future" section, I should have pointed out that there are a couple of sound card manufacturers who are now working on releasing a "passthrough", where you feed your HDMI video from a video card into your soundcard, which adds the audio and then resends it all out over another HDMI port.  This should work, but it doesn't change the need for Intel to hit this space in their integrated graphics solution.

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Comments (33)

April 29, 2008 12:40 AM PDT


UX-admin
This is all good and well, but what good does this fancy audio capability do me, when intel doesn't deliver drivers for my OpenSolaris desktop???
April 29, 2008 12:49 AM PDT


andy o
Good article. Most of us weren't even aware that you could have proper HDMI audio before G35. But then again, there were virtually no motherboards that had this capability, available as it was. Not even Intel offers this on their G35 mobo, and Asus seems to be the only ones doing this. So anyway, when the protected audio path gets straightened out, and PowerDVD updates for it, should we expect Intel to update the G35 drivers for this as well, or will we have to guy a G45?
April 29, 2008 12:50 AM PDT


andy o
I meant "buy" instead of "guy", of course.
April 29, 2008 3:22 PM PDT

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andy o:

Both Gigabyte and Shuttle had motherboards based on G33 which had HDMI audio out. They were popular for a time, but the G35 was more well-received.
May 6, 2008 1:00 PM PDT


Mitch
Aaron -

Best discussion of HDMI audio's development that I've seen anywhere - kudos.

One question: PowerDVD has the ability to decode all of the new lossless high-def audio formats out there (except SACD), and the latest version can directly output the decoded content, presumably in 8-channel 24/192 LPCM format, on to HDMI. Will protected-path considerations mandate that the LPCM streams be encrypted in order to be sent full-resolution? If so, how does key-management happen between the receiver and the player, so that the receiver can decrypt the streams prior to D-to-A'ing them and amplifying them to the speakers?

BTW, the Intel platform's all-digital audio output capability actually precedes HDMI. My DG965WH motherboard has an HD Audio chip on it that can output 8 discrete PCM channels in ADAT format, which a variety of pro audio equipment can amplify and process. HDMI just takes the capability up a notch in terms of resolution, since ADAT is limited to 24-bit/48KHz, vs. HDMI's 24-bit/192KHz.
May 6, 2008 3:55 PM PDT

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Thanks for reading, Mitch. There is, of course, complexity to the situation.

The AACS spec (content protection for HD DVD and Blu-ray) mandates that any protected audio data on an "unprotected" interface be downconverted to at best 16-bit, 48kHz sound. Cyberlink has taken this considerably farther and downconverts everything-- protected and unprotected-- to 16-bit, 48kHz sound. I use alternative software like Media Player Classic or ZoomPlayer or even MediaPortal which is more difficult to configure but which can send out the full bit depth and sampling frequency up to 24-bit, 192kHz per channel.

Eventually it's likely PowerDVD will come around and allow full resolution over a protected interface, but the LPCM must be sent from the software to the HDMI port (inside the PC) encrypted or face this downconversion. The Intel HDMI Audio solution that exists on motherboards today will not meet this criteria, as the Intel HD Audio bus is not an encrypted interface. Future Intel chipsets will likely not have this limitation (don't know about the G45, which is coming Real Soon Now) because it will all happen on the chipset and not over an unprotected bus.

I had forgotten about the ADAT capabilities of some of Intel's motherboards, Mitch, so you raise a good point. While HDMI is superior, and seems the de facto standard, it was not the first to the party. In fact, there are some specialty sound cards which include 4 SPDIF ports and pass 2 LPCM channels per port to a receiver which is likewise equipped. Those solutions are pretty niche, though. ADAT is an actual standard, though mostly only used by audio professionals.
May 10, 2008 11:55 PM PDT


Janis
Great article Aaron Brezenski keep on pushing this side of industry.

Altrought Im not huge fan of intel and their business strategies I can admit that this is exelent article about HD audio realization on PC and various other aspects in this problem. This filled numerous missing information links in pursuit for full-blooded and elegant HTPC solution aspects. Im think that this feature deserves much more attention, promotion and advertisment than got so far. This feature needs to be placed in products main feature list.

By the way I think that mass audio industry is stuck in 44.1 KHz, 2 Channel, 16bit sound for 28 years (since 1980) that is a shame !!!!

So far Im understand that first to HD audio solutins was inte nVidia joined it recently and AMD (my favorite :) ) still no solution for that :( , but Im think it will be to change as soon as AMD begins to feel pressure from rivals because of this lacking feature :).
May 14, 2008 10:36 AM PDT


JuMz
You mention sounds cards,boards, and devices that provide a solution to HTPC enthusiasts. Care to mention any specifics?

i.e. "full resolution 6- and 8-channel audio simply cannot be passed digitally in any other way than on certain specific Intel platforms"

Which ones?

"there are a couple of sound card manufacturers who are now working on releasing a "passthrough", where you feed your HDMI video from a video card into your soundcard, which adds the audio and then resends it all out over another HDMI port"

Like who?

"Right now, there are so few audio solutions which accomodate this that all playback software"

What software works?
May 14, 2008 2:27 PM PDT

Aaron Brezenski (Intel)
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"Which ones?"

All Intel G965 motherboards
Shuttle SG33G5
Gigabyte GA-G33M-S2H
Asus P5E-V HDMI
Asus P5E-VM HDMI

"Like who?"

Asus, Auzentech

"What software works?"

Mediaportal, Media Player Classic-- either with FFDshow LPCM filters
ZoomPlayer probably works too
May 17, 2008 3:39 PM PDT


johan
I have bought a Asus P5E-V HDMI (Intel G35 chipset) specifically for its HDMI audio capability, and the advertised ability to accelerate HD video.
The hardware might be capable, but the drivers sure are not.
ALSA Intel audio does not play nice with X.org Intel video. And HD video acceleration is non-existant.
So I am stuck with mediaeval analog audio next to a FullHD panel.
May 17, 2008 8:51 PM PDT

Aaron Brezenski (Intel)
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I understand Keith Packard and company are working on a unified HW acceleration framework for X in general, and will include particular G35 stuff in this implementation when it comes about.

Last I heard the ALSA drivers did mux the sound out on HDMI, but I have not actually tried it myself, so I'll concede it may be broken on the Linux side.
June 23, 2008 10:02 AM PDT


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June 24, 2008 9:10 AM PDT


Seppo
Very interesting! I think many Linux users are waiting for decent Xvideo + ALSA multichannel audio support before any hardware purchasing. At the moment all major graphics vendor's hardware have flaws in Linux support and Linux is very popular in HTPC area due to some excellent media frameworks.
June 24, 2008 9:42 AM PDT


Seppo
I hope the "Protected Audio-Video Path" or "PAVP" it not preventing supporting Linux video & audio over HDMI. Lack of graphics hardware decoded H.264 video is perhaps not a problem with the latest E8xxx Intel CPUs.
June 24, 2008 9:44 AM PDT

Aaron Brezenski (Intel)
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Protected Audio/Video Path only happens if activated by software. Linux developers would have to activate it on purpose, and I see little reason for them to do so, given that there's very little incentive to protect content in Linux.
August 30, 2008 5:15 PM PDT


Richard White
I just wanted to add my thanks for such an informative and excellent article. I agree that it is a shame that Intel has not advertised its HD audio features considering you have been ahead of the curve. Perhaps you could help educate some more Intel employees? On the up side I have found this before making a purchase and so am far more leaning towards buying an Intel based mobo because of it and will be drawing friends' attention to this too. Thank you!
October 16, 2008 4:26 AM PDT


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October 28, 2008 4:02 AM PDT


NAGENDRA BABU AKKILI

HI

I BOUGHT INTEL G35 MOTHERBOARD .. SOUND IS NOT WORKING EVENTHOUGH I INSTALLED DRIVER FOR SOUND... PLEASE GIVE SUGGESTIONS...
November 20, 2008 6:00 PM PST


Don Tujaka
Aaron...... thanks for the article. This was the most honest coverage I have seen. Please update and keep current as things change. At this point I am left with the impression that actually getting the hardware and drivers to actually provide HDMI for Blue-Ray and concurrent synchronized audio at 24/192 is difficult to impossible. Thanks again.
December 12, 2008 11:26 PM PST


Condell Ong
Hi, is there any updates on this. what happens now that intel has g45 and/or p43. any latest.
this article is the best resource from all that I have read. thanks
December 16, 2008 7:06 AM PST


Charlie
Hi all,

This discussion holds a lot of acronyms that I have no familiarity with. However, I do have a new DG45FC-based system and I am not getting any audio over the HDMI connection.

Can anyone offer any pointers as to how to troubleshoot/resolve?

TIA
January 9, 2009 12:51 PM PST


Eric
Mitch raised a point which I personnally find of the utmost importance : ADAT (24bit 8 channel 44k100hz or 48khz) output on some Intel motherboards.
What are all the exact intel models that have it ?

Is their ADAT output working under linux (does the ALSA driver support the ADAT output) ) ?

Any DP35DP or older DG965WH motherboard user having ADAT output playing under Linux ?

Thanks in advance
January 17, 2009 5:52 AM PST


Sara
HDMI Audio is very useful product for home theater PC. I feel this product is useful and important.
January 25, 2009 1:01 PM PST


James
After some research, I bought an Intel E7300 and Gigabyte EG45 motherboard because Intel advertises the G45 chipset as having hardware h264 decoding. My question is how does one enable hardware decoding? I've wasted dozens of hours and had no success at all.

Both are connected to a 1080p projector via HDMI

My much slower single core AMD and Radeon works perfectly, usually under 30% CPU while playing back very high bitrate media, for all I can see, everything is the same: Windows XP Pro (tried with SP2 and SP3 + updates), latest drivers for both systems and same codecs/software versions. I've tried powerdvd as well - it works fine on the AMD but not on the Intel. The G45 always maxes out one core (CPU average 60%) and the video only plays about 15-20 frames per second making it completely unwatchable, with the sound stuttering and dropping in and out.

How do you enable hardware decoding?
January 25, 2009 8:31 PM PST


James
Well after even more operating system reinstalling and ensuring I do everything _EXACTLY_ the same on the Intel and AMD systems, I found this web page:

http://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/developing-software-f.....pic/60703/

I will reserve calling Intel blatant lying scumbags for the time being, I'm hoping someone will have an explanation

Here is the Intel G45 product page: http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/chipsets/g45/g45-overview.htm

Where does it say G45 is NOT compatible with Windows XP and hardware accelerated h264 decoding? It boasts about high definition content and mentions microsofts latest buzzword Vista. The wording does not tie the two as mutually inclusive, nor provide any suggestion dxva will not work with any operating system except for Vista.

This is very intentional misleading behaviour. I've just wasted my money on this deliberately crippled product. I have no intention of downgrading to Vista and need to keep the system compact and quiet so my only choice is one I dont want to take, to get rid of the more powerful, cooler running Intel platform for an inferior, slower, hotter yet uncrippled AMD platform.

How do I return a product I've had for 3 weeks, wasted 30+ hours configuring the OS, MediaPortal and trying to get it to play high bitrate media that an inferior AMD system plays perfectly.

I wish I read the page I linked to, before I bought this system, I'd have made a smarter choice. Now I'm going to tell everyone not to buy an Intel system. That'll teach em! That is, all two people who'll listen instead of the hundreds of millions who don't :)
February 3, 2009 3:47 AM PST


Eric
Hi James,
Really sad for you I totally understand your disgust : it seems that datasheets are often more complete than actual products ! And it seems that marketing team is often more efficient than engineering and support teams !
At least the AMD platform is doing what you want...

I hope that that my soon to be bought DP35DP intel motherboard will actually have ADAT output featured (as stated in all current datasheets) because ADAT (8 channel 24 bit 44100 hz) is the ONLY reason I am getting it !
Can somebody from Intel confirm that current (late) DP35DP still ACTUALLY have ADAT output feature ?
Thanks in advance
March 19, 2009 12:33 AM PDT


dharma
Intel HDMI Audio Driver want for hp pavillion dv6000 laptop
April 20, 2009 10:49 PM PDT


Vannarity Toch
I have a Sony laptop VGN-Z570N I have connected from my latop to a Sony LCD with a HDMI cable. I have tried to play my DVD from PowerDVD Ultimate 9. The picture is fine but there is no sound at all. With other softwares such as Window Media Player or Roxio the sound is okay. Can anyone advice me how to solve this problem? Thank you
May 24, 2009 6:38 PM PDT


blablabla
I guess video quality goes faster than sound quality...
July 5, 2009 3:29 PM PDT


Song
I have a Dell Inspiron Mini with the Intel Atom. I plugged the HDMI cable and received video and audio on my new flat screen with HDMI input wonderfully BUT since the beginning, which was a day ago, my audio has not been going to the TV. It has been a hit and miss to get HDMI to show up on the "Sound & Audio Device Properties" which is the only way I've noticed will allow the audio to go to the TV. Is this because of the "Realtek HD Audio ouput" taken over and not letting HDMI show up as a separate device? What can I do? By the way, I am not a computer guru, just an average person learning as I go.
August 28, 2009 1:13 PM PDT


wm
I have an HP notebook with the G965 chipset. I also get video, but no audio. Guess this isnt the right place to ask, but Im just posting this here in case anyone responds. Like the guy above.

:)
September 29, 2009 10:32 PM PDT


Ganesh
Aaron, I have been following your blog posts as well as Eric's regarding the HD capabilities of the 4500MHD IGP from Intel.

I was very excited to find DXVA working for very complicated H264 encodes (on which even ATI's 3450 which I currently use on my desktop choke very badly).

The next part that HTPC users are most enthusiastic about is lossless HD audio over HDMI.

Multi-channel LPCM on HDMI is supported natively only on ATI 4600 and later series, while Nvidia is a no-show whenever native audio over HDMI comes up. From your post, it appears that native audio support over HDMI is available on the chipsets which use the 4500MHD.

I am interested in knowing whether the HDMI output on these chipsets support lossless HD audio bitstreaming (Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA output untouched to an AV receiver, say). Till now, it has been restricted only to the outrageously over-priced Asus Xonar / Auzentech sound cards, and the recently released HD 58xx series (which make no sense for the HTPC crowd). Is it a feature which is :

1. Not supported by the HDMI hardware on the chipset?
2. Not supported by the Intel driver?
2. Just a matter of player software taking advantage of a feature which is already present in the driver and hardware?

Looking forward to your response on this topic. Thanks in advance!
October 27, 2009 4:50 PM PDT

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Hello Aaron,
Many thanks for your great articles. Unfortunately I am not technical enough to understand all the intricacies of what will work and what will not in my case and hope that you can help. I am planning to move my audio collection from CD to FLAC lossless format and play through a decedent receiver that can comes with 24/192 DAC. Here is what I have in mind:
Dell Mini 10 series netbook (has HDMI out) and Winamp player
http://www1.ca.dell.com/ca/en/home/Laptops/laptop-inspiron-1.....&cs=cadhs1
Connected via HDMI to Marantz NR1501 with 23/192 DAC
http://us.marantz.com/Products/2926.asp
Obviously, I don’t want to have any degradation of sound quality. Do you think it will work?

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