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Welcome to this forum.

This forum is for discussion of the Intel Many Integrated Core (MIC) Architecture and the Intel Xeon Phi coprocessor.

Q. Where can I read more about MIC?

Here are a few places:

Q. What if I have more questions?
A. Read this FAQ and search this forum. If neither answer your question, please post a question on the forum.

Q. What ISVs have announced application support for the Intel Xeon Phi coprocessor?
A. Refer to MIC architecture support by software tools for a list of vendors who have announced support so far.

Q. Why not use a standard Linux distribution to run on the card?
A. Every standard Linux distribution supports processors for which work was done previously to add support. We have added support for the Intel Xeon Phi coprocessor. This meant supporting a number of micro-architectural features, the Intel Xeon Phi ISA, Intel Xeon Phi ABI and adding support for coprocessor mode (drivers).

Q. Are optimizations for Intel Xeon Phi coprocesors beneficial for processors (e.g., Intel Xeon processors)?
A. The keys to a good application for Knights Corner are the same as for an Intel Xeon processor: scale and vectorize. Pick a method to scale (OpenMP, MPI, TBB, etc.). Pick a method for vectorization (compiler options, pragmas, Cilk Plus, etc.). Tune. Many results from tuning on a MIC architecture machine have proven to increase performance on the original target as well.

Q. Are Intel Xeon Phi coprocessors binary compatible with other processors?
A. The unique combination of new features in Knights Corner, and the software stack for Knights Corner, mean that no binaries prior to Knights Corner are completely compatible with Knights Corner nor would they take advantage of the new Knights Corner vector instructions and the four-way multithreading of the hardware.

Q. How do I contribute to open source support for Intel Xeon Phi coprocessors or MIC?
A. With regards to the capabilities we have released on this forum (see RESOURCES thread, our efforts will eventually be incorporated in the open source projects themselves. Today, feel free to start a discussion on this forum with ideas, questions or patches. With regards to other project, feel free to work with any project out there to propose patches. Starting a thread in this forum to find like-minded developers is encouraged.

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Hi James,

Your first two links to reference articles result in Page Not Found :(

Jim Dempsey

www.quickthreadprogramming.com

I fixed this morning, thank you for bringing it to my attention.- james

If, as you say, the Knight's Corner, Xeon Phi, etc. is not binary compatible with prior Intel processors the "same instruction set" argument goes out the window. Using the Xeon Phi is still heterogeneous parallel processing. Not entirely evil unless you're one of those don't believe that "the free lunch is over". This isn't easy and it's not going to get easier fast. You may hear otherwise but that is usually from someone trying to sell you some snake oil that will make it easy. It takes intelligence, knowledge and effort which is job security for the talented programmer.

A *key* feature of Intel Xeon Phi coprocessors is the 512 bit SIMD capbility. This is the first Intel product with such support, and as such a binary using 512 bit vectors cannot run on other processors. When we introduced MMX, SSE and AVX (64 bits, 128 bits, 256 bits) - we created the same challenge: a processor with a abilities to run code that ran nowhere else (for a while). "same instruction set" is about a base and adding feature to the base. Intel processors have added features for a long time, but benefitted from having the same "base." A static instruction set would fail to stay relevant. Rather than beat around the bush, I've been clear that 512 bit is important, and as such the binaries you run won't run elsewhere (at this time). Of course, being on a card and running Linux gives you a coprocessor model which is new enough to not match existing binaries in any case. So I pushed on the "not binary compatible." However, we certainly have source code compatibily options - and the base instruction set is the same, which turns out to be very helpful. For one thing, porting is in general trivial - leaving primarily only the challenges of parallel programming after porting. Ah, those. No magic there... but rewarding payoffs on a high parallel device when you give it highly parallel work.

Hi James,
We met Suresh Rangarajulu from INTEL at the Siggraph who was interested by our applications, I am trying to contact him without any success.
We develop Physics Based Lighting Simulation software, we are integrated in Catia V5, SolidWorks, CREO. Our simulations are perfectly scalable and run on multi-processors/multi-cores CPU or GPU. On CPU, we already test our application on 32 threads and it runs perfectly. We thing we could be an active partner for MIC and Knights Corner. Can you suggest a contact at INTEL?
D. CHABAUD
VP R&D
dchabaud@optis-world.com
http://www.optis-world.com/

I will let Suresh know you want him to contact you.

Hi James,

this info is outdated, insn't it (ie. no. of cores, pricing, shipping date etc)?

Don't shoot the messenger in case I am wrong, I am just familiarizing myself withe the forums before posting.

Alex

Sorry, yes, updated!

Hello, can you share hpl source code for mic? In composerxe, I have found that on mic or host cpu, But now I want to make use of both at the same time. Either offload or MPI is OK.

Thanks

I want run the parallel application with native mode on the Xeon Phi card( KNC).  Where I have to  submit the perl script to run my application on the card. I am not able to find the perl executable on the card. "uname -a " shows the following output.  

uname -a
Linux ycn205-mic0. 2.6.38.8-g32944d0 #2 SMP Mon Dec 17 12:08:03 PST 2012 k1om k1om k1om GNU/Linux

Please guide me to how can I  run the MPI application with native compilation on the KNC card with perl script.

I notice that if I make a web search such as "MIC perl site:software.intel.com" I see good suggestions, not that any are as easy as one might like.  There's this reference where it seems you need to include the author's name for the search to find it:

http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/configuring-intel-xeon-phi-copr...

I could imagine that customers would find it helpful if there were a site to download Intel(r) Xeon Phi(tm) native builds of such tools, but a full native execution environment isn't a primary marketing focus.  There have been internal Intel sites which have gone away.

I am trying to compile  MPICH2-1.5 for native mode i.e ( with "-mmic"),  I am facing problems for it. Can any body guide me  to compile MPICH2-1.5 for mic where I will get all required compilers like  mpicc,mpif90, mpif77,mpicxx.

Thanks.

I doubt there is any more complete guide for MPICH installation than what their developers provide. e.g. put the -mmic compilers on path, set their FLAGS environment variables to -mmic, and follow their configure steps.

mpich-discuss seems a more likely place to get help, but in any case you would need to follow their instructions and describe what problem you encountered.

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